flacaltenn
Diamond Member
No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.
Yeah Jim -- It's that 2% demographic that keeps the Repubs filling seats in Congress. Including Ted Kennedy's.. You keep telling yourself that..
And how exactly would the poor eliminate the debt? I thought the glorious thingy about Soc Sec and Medicare was that it's UNIVERSAL.. EVERYONE's a winner.. Except now maybe for means testing and forcing "the rich" to pick up the bill. Starts looking a little more like welfare don't it??
ACTUALLY, we could raise about $60Bill a year just by asking that 49% that pays NO Income tax to just kick in about $25 a month.. It's not the AMOUNT that's important. It's just the "sharing of the burden" part. A token amount to back up their support for all these Green Subsidies, and Libyan non-wars, and progressive shit that they demand..
Maybe if they paid SOMETHING -- they'd pay attention when Congress is robbing them of $2TRILL in excess Social Security payroll taxes next time....
Oh yeah, yuo mean how W robbed Social Security to fight his war in Iraq. Never before in US history has the wealthy of this country received a tax cut while we began two wars. That is exactly how we got into this fix. I said it when W pushed the tax cuts through and I say it now. Recovering alcoholics should never be elected president.
Well that theft began in the 80's so obviously it was a Bi-Partisian heist.. But rescinding the Bush tax cuts don't get you revenues from MOST of the rich. Because folks like those hated "fund mgrs", trust fund babies, and day traders are not gonna pay a penny more if you raise the top brackets back to before "Bush". Like Warren Buffet and his infamous 17.7% effective rate -- it's all capital gains. NOT income. Learn a little bit about what you're asking for. And spend less time bitching about former Presidents.. Makes the left look stupid when they whine and nag about the wrong tax tool to accomplish their "fairness" or balance the budget.
And why shouldn't EVERY worker in the US contribute SOMETHING token to budget crisis?
Do the math.. $250/yr from 80Mill workers currently paying NO income taxes == $20Bill.
That's less than what it costs to keep a cat.. But it's a LOT of "free" statin drugs ain't it?
Think they might pay more attention to massive thefts of budget dollars when they have SOME skin in the game? Maybe get more serious about bombing Libya? Ethanol subsidies?