GOP introduces "Duck, Dodge, and Dismantle"

[JimH52]

White House Threatens Veto Of 'Cap, Cut Balance' Bill; GOP Plows Ahead : It's All Politics : NPR

 

[code1211]

White House Threatens Veto Of 'Cap, Cut Balance' Bill; GOP Plows Ahead : It's All Politics : NPR

In your ideal world, how large should the debt become?

 

[PoliticalChic]

White House Threatens Veto Of 'Cap, Cut Balance' Bill; GOP Plows Ahead : It's All Politics : NPR

Jimmy, help me out on this....what were the specific cuts that President Obama has offered?

"In his remarks, which come after Friday’s bipartisan deal to cut domestic spending by about $38 billion for the remainder of this budget year, Mr. Obama will not offer details but will set deficit-cutting goals, White House officials said. The numbers were still under discussion on Sunday."
Obama’s Big Deficit Speech Will Come Without Specific Plan To Cut Deficit


Ya' know, with that much wool pulled over your eyes, Jimmy, you're starting to look like a sheep!

 

[kyzr]

This just shows that democracy fails when no one is willing to compromise.

1. The GOP will in-fact raise revenue when the Bush Tax Cuts expire

2. The Coburn Plan is the best plan I've see so far, it cuts EVERYTHING $9-trillion

3. If the dems don't vote for a plan then the 9% unemployment rate will become a depression. I hope they can all eat cake...

 

[JimH52]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

 

[dilloduck]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

How awful of them to try to make poverty go away.

 

[JimH52]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

How awful of them to try to make poverty go away.

It will go away once they put those surviving on Social Security and medicare on the street. They can avoid street people, you know.

 

[WillowTree]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

oh! wasssamatter fella you think the poor will have to give up a TV and their dvd player???

 

[JimH52]

The Republicans will end up looking like a bunch of fools when this debt crisis is over. Fools that avoided their responsibilities and kicked the can down the road. Everyone agrees that they will be the big losers. Stay Tuned!

 

[Conservative]

The Republicans will end up looking like a bunch of fools when this debt crisis is over. Fools that avoided their responsibilities and kicked the can down the road. Everyone agrees that they will be the big losers. Stay Tuned!

I don't agree... that would make you the big loser

 

[kyzr]

The Republicans will end up looking like a bunch of fools when this debt crisis is over. Fools that avoided their responsibilities and kicked the can down the road. Everyone agrees that they will be the big losers. Stay Tuned!

When we stay tuned and Medicare goes bankrupt in 2017 who will be the big losers?

 

[flacaltenn]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

Yeah Jim -- It's that 2% demographic that keeps the Repubs filling seats in Congress. Including Ted Kennedy's.. You keep telling yourself that..

And how exactly would the poor eliminate the debt? I thought the glorious thingy about Soc Sec and Medicare was that it's UNIVERSAL.. EVERYONE's a winner.. Except now maybe for means testing and forcing "the rich" to pick up the bill. Starts looking a little more like welfare don't it??

ACTUALLY, we could raise about $60Bill a year just by asking that 49% that pays NO Income tax to just kick in about $25 a month.. It's not the AMOUNT that's important. It's just the "sharing of the burden" part. A token amount to back up their support for all these Green Subsidies, and Libyan non-wars, and progressive shit that they demand..

Maybe if they paid SOMETHING -- they'd pay attention when Congress is robbing them of $2TRILL in excess Social Security payroll taxes next time....

 

[JimH52]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

Yeah Jim -- It's that 2% demographic that keeps the Repubs filling seats in Congress. Including Ted Kennedy's.. You keep telling yourself that..

And how exactly would the poor eliminate the debt? I thought the glorious thingy about Soc Sec and Medicare was that it's UNIVERSAL.. EVERYONE's a winner.. Except now maybe for means testing and forcing "the rich" to pick up the bill. Starts looking a little more like welfare don't it??

ACTUALLY, we could raise about $60Bill a year just by asking that 49% that pays NO Income tax to just kick in about $25 a month.. It's not the AMOUNT that's important. It's just the "sharing of the burden" part. A token amount to back up their support for all these Green Subsidies, and Libyan non-wars, and progressive shit that they demand..

Maybe if they paid SOMETHING -- they'd pay attention when Congress is robbing them of $2TRILL in excess Social Security payroll taxes next time....

Oh yeah, yuo mean how W robbed Social Security to fight his war in Iraq. Never before in US history has the wealthy of this country received a tax cut while we began two wars. That is exactly how we got into this fix. I said it when W pushed the tax cuts through and I say it now. Recovering alcoholics should never be elected president.

 

[percysunshine]

NPR?

They have some great stuff. But they are government funded editorialists.

 

[whitehall]

Don't you lefties realize we wouldn't even be having a debate on the critical state of federal spending if republicans hadn't won the majority in congress last fall? Barry concedes that federla spending is out of control and Reid concedes that government spending is out of control. What does that tell you radicals? That maybe spending is out of control? Quit posting Huffing and Soros stuff and think for a change.

 

[The Rabbi]

White House Threatens Veto Of 'Cap, Cut Balance' Bill; GOP Plows Ahead : It's All Politics : NPR

So the GOP offers plan after plan. And the Senate Dems and Obama simply say no, without offering their own plan. Their own plan would seem to be a clean bill raising the debt ceiling. But that was voted down, chiefly by Democrats.
So what do Democrats want?
I think they want someone else to do what they want AND to take responsibility for that decision.
The Democrats: The Party of No.

 

[JimH52]

Don't you lefties realize we wouldn't even be having a debate on the critical state of federal spending if republicans hadn't won the majority in congress last fall? Barry concedes that federla spending is out of control and Reid concedes that government spending is out of control. What does that tell you radicals? That maybe spending is out of control? Quit posting Huffing and Soros stuff and think for a change.

If in fact that was happening, it would be a lot safer than offering Murdoch stuff. You might wake up dead, you know?

 

[The Rabbi]

Don't you lefties realize we wouldn't even be having a debate on the critical state of federal spending if republicans hadn't won the majority in congress last fall? Barry concedes that federla spending is out of control and Reid concedes that government spending is out of control. What does that tell you radicals? That maybe spending is out of control? Quit posting Huffing and Soros stuff and think for a change.

If in fact that was happening, it would be a lot safer than offering Murdoch stuff. You might wake up dead, you know?

Non-sequitur of the night.
More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than died because of tax cuts.

 

[Big Fitz]

The Republicans will end up looking like a bunch of fools when this debt crisis is over. Fools that avoided their responsibilities and kicked the can down the road. Everyone agrees that they will be the big losers. Stay Tuned!

One veto and Obama shoulders the blame for this forever. People don't give a fuck about what's in the bill when you look at the large mass of hoi-poloi. They care that it was signed or not.

 

[AmericanFirst]

No one argues that the debt needs to be addressed. But it will not be eliminated on the backs of the poor. While the wealthy enjoy the lowest tax rate ever, and millionaires get away without paying any taxes, due to loopholes, the GOP wants to cut, and eventually eliminate medicare. They basically would like all the poor people to go away. That would make more room for their constinuents, the rich. I mean, that IS where most of their campaign dollars come.

Where did obamaturds campaign funds come from? Oh that is right, they are still undisclosed, I will tell you socialists like ayers and soros. Raising taxes on the so called rich, the employers, will only cause more unemployment.