Zone1 God's purpose was to make the Anglo-Saxon race predominant

[BreezeWood]

But his church is filled with blue-eyed, blond-haired, white skinned people, some of whom need dental work (especially the English).

sure

again, might one digress as who's church that might be - anglo saxon ... as the one for all beings as they created them free of spirit and pure of mind.

 

[zaangalewa]

sure

again, might one digress as who's church that might be - anglo saxon ... as the one for all beings as they created them free of spirit and pure of mind.

Saxons are just simple North Germans where also Angeln (=Fisher) lived, This North Germanic "fisher" seddled down in "England" (Land of the Angeln) in the 5th century. The Anglo-Saxon way of life became there dominant from the 6th century up to the year 1066 when the Normans conquered England. This special Normans did not come directly from Scandinavia but had been seddled down in the Frankonian empire about 300 years before this had happened - on reason to protect the Frankonian Empire against the Vikings. About the same time the Seljiuks - a Turkish tribe from Asia - had conquered Jerusalem and Mekka. In the "Frankonian wars" (Arabian expression) a short time later this Normans (and Franks) started to fight against the Seljuks (Turks). Today this wars are known as "crusades". The backgrtound of this wars was the idea that Jerusalem is the middle of the world - and who owns the middle of the world owns the whole world. So from the view of the Normans (and Anglo-Saxosn and Franks) this was as well a kind of freedom fight and a fight for the own dominance.

With "race" or "racism" had all this relativelly senseless and unimportant wars and fights absolutelly nothing to do.

 

[Woodznutz]

sure

again, might one digress as who's church that might be - anglo saxon ... as the one for all beings as they created them free of spirit and pure of mind.

Not so much.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

 

[Zincwarrior]

Most of us get this. We understand history the way they used to teach it. This George Grey guy knew how real life worked.

---The Role of the Missionaries---

The Role of the Missionaries in conquest - Chapter VIII - “Christianity and Civilization” | South African History Online

Russobots are Russian.

 

[Woodznutz]

With "race" or "racism" had all this relativelly senseless and unimportant wars and fights absolutelly nothing to do.

That's because the warring tribes, the descendants of the tribes of Israel, were basically the same ethnically.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Most of us get this. We understand history the way they used to teach it. This George Grey guy knew how real life worked.

---The Role of the Missionaries---

The Role of the Missionaries in conquest - Chapter VIII - “Christianity and Civilization” | South African History Online

Which is, of course, a total load of crap.

Back in the past Anglo-Saxons weren't at the top of the tree. The Romans dominated a lot of Europe. They didn't dominate the Angles or the Saxons much, because these people were still in what's now northern Germany. The Angles and the Saxons then felt the need to leave their homeland and move to what is now England after a while. Then they got totally dumped upon by the Normans (of Viking ancestry).

Europe rose because of the conditions that Europe had, coal, metals and good conditions to produce enough food. China also has this and dominated much more.

Now, in the modern era, China is rising the US can barely function properly, the UK has gone for self destruction with Brexit....

 

[cnm]

God's purpose was to make the Anglo-Saxon race predominant

She chose a funny place to start if that was her aim.

 

[cnm]

This George Grey guy knew how real life worked.

If being an utter arsehole is knowing how real life works.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

British Israelism is a pseudoarchaeological, pseudohistorical and pseudoreligious belief that the people of Great Britain are the direct descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel 1. The doctrine claims that the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel found their way to Western Europe and Britain, becoming the ancestors of the British, the English and related peoples 1. The central tenets of British Israelism have been refuted by archaeological, ethnological, genetic, and linguistic research 12. The movement has been around since the 16th century and was inspired by several 19th century English writings 1. From the 1870s onward, numerous independent British Israelite organizations were set up throughout the British Empire as well as in the United States; as of the early 21st century, a number of these organizations are still active 1. The idea gave rise to the Christian Identity movement in the United States 1.

1en.wikipedia.org2cdamm.org3en.wikipedia.org

AI

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What is British Israelism, and is it True?​

by William Hoste (1861-1938)

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William Hoste, author, preacher and editor of The Believer’s Magazine from 1931-38, graduated from Trinity College, Cambridge, having studied theology there under Handley Moule. Answering a question in print about what Christians are to make of “British Israelism” he answered as follows:

The British-Israel hypothesis is that “Anglo-Saxons are the lineal descendants of the ten tribes of Israel and inherit the wonderful promises made to them. These promises the Anglo-Saxons possess nationally”.

This can hardly be dignified with the name of ‘heresy’; it is rather one of those ‘imaginations that we are to seek to cast down in the name of Christ. As far as truth is concerned, it is of “the stuff that dreams are made of”; a simile not so far-fetched, when we consider that the British Israelism theory’s prime foundation is, as we shall see, confessedly, an invented dream.

How sad it is to see even pious Christians snared by the great fowler, as also numbers of worldlings, taking up as a sort of fashionable pastime the slogan, not “we are lost sinners” but “we are the lost tribes”. It thus provides for the world another gospel, which captivates and hypnotises them with the thought of capturing great earthly blessings for themselves and the British Empire, apart from repentance and faith in Christ, as though He had never died and risen to procure us blessings, and we must needs make out a fancied identity with the lost tribes (bereft of the blessings themselves) in order to get a few for ourselves and the British Empire.

Certainly Christ did not die for the glory of the British Empire. If God has blessed our country so signally in the past, the reasons are not far to seek: (1) His sovereignty; (2) the comparatively good treatment England has bestowed on the Jews; (3) the fact that she has been a harbour of refuge for persecuted continental Christians: (4) because, by His mercy, the Word of God was accepted at the Reformation, and became our national Book for centuries; (5) and because of His many people in our country and their prayers; though now she is on the way to forfeit all of this by her national sin and apostasy.

But not one blessing did Britain ever inherit for the ‘British-Israel’ reason, because even if she were the lost tribes, she has not kept God’s laws and statutes, the very condition of blessing (See Deut 28:15) and would have put herself outside the covenant, if ever under it, by neglecting circumcision. British Israelism is no mere harmless delusion; its logical effect is virtually to exclude Christ (because not He, but the British Empire looms at the centre of things), and to supersede the gospel to sinners with some fancied national position, with its naked abandonment of the heavenly calling of the church and a complete confusion between her and Israel. Even if we were Israel, she is set on one side nationally for the present so far as earthly blessing goes, and so should we be.

If space allowed, I would gladly take up the general arguments for or against the much vaunted ‘identifications’, but before examining the ornaments of a building, it is well to enquire as to the foundation. I believe no castle-in-the-air ever had a flimsier base than this theory. Is there any historical proof that the ten tribes migrated from the latitudes where the Assyrians placed them, to England or anywhere else? There is not a scintilla. No mention is made of their doings either in Scripture or secular history from about 720 BC, when their Assyrian captors settled them in Assyria, etc., though we have promises in the Scriptures of their future restoration, e.g. Isa 11:12 where Jehovah promises to gather back again to their only land of blessing the “outcasts of Israel”, along with “the dispersed of Judah”, from whom they are thus carefully distinguished. We may be sure that the Assyrians, as long as they had the power, would not allow their captives to wander away at their own sweet will to some other land. Until we have some proof that the ten tribes ever started on their journey for the British Isles, it is futile to spend time in proving they never arrived there.

On what then does the British Israelism theory rest? On a passage in an Apocryphal book, the 2nd of Esdras, purporting to have been written by Ezra the scribe, but really forged 700 years after the captivity by some unscrupulous impersonator living in Egypt. The passage (see chapter 13:1-12, 39-46) purports to be the interpretation of a fictitious dream ascribed to Ezra, to the effect that the ten tribes took counsel to leave the heathen country where they were in captivity and go off into a land where no one dwelt; where they might keep God’s statutes. They crossed the Euphrates miraculously and after a year and a half arrived at some unknown region called Arsareth. “Then dwelt they there until the latter time.” The whole chapter reads like an unholy parody of Scripture, as indeed it is, naturally bereft of all spiritual power, and bristling with the wildest improbabilities. And yet this fake dream and its fictitious interpretation is admitted by the writers of British Israel Truth (chap. 7) to be the “one only tradition of their fate (i.e., of the lost tribes) which past ages have handed on to us” (See British Israel – Under New Searchlight, by Avary Forbes).

That a whole system should rest ultimately on a ‘tradition’ would be bad enough, but when that ‘tradition’ is a dream, that nobody really ever had, the edifice must be in a parlous state. As to how to deal with a Christian who becomes infected with this unscriptural, unhistorical theory; it may be said that as far as is apparent, it does not effect directly fundamental truth as to the person of Christ, though what it may lead to is difficult to say. Any attempt to propagate it in an assembly could not be tolerated, and anyone persisting in such a course would bring himself or herself under the open rebuke of the elders. Certainly, the theory “causes division and offences contrary to the doctrine, which we have learned” and we we should mark and avoid those who are in active sympathy with this sad delusion.

 

[Arlette]

Most of us get this. We understand history the way they used to teach it. This George Grey guy knew how real life worked.

---The Role of the Missionaries---

The Role of the Missionaries in conquest - Chapter VIII - “Christianity and Civilization” | South African History Online

God is wrong about pork. That's a fact. No telling what else he's wrong about.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Woodznutz got it right, losers don't get to write the history books.

First, there is no such thing as an Anglo-Saxon ‘race.’

Second, believing so is typical rightwing ignorance and stupidity.

Third, believing that ‘god’ wants any ‘race’ to be ‘predominant’ is classic Christo-fascist racism, the stuff of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

Last, the thread premise is further proof that conservatism poses the true threat to America.

 

[SweetSue92]

That's because the warring tribes, the descendants of the tribes of Israel, were basically the same ethnically.

There are many, many strange birds on this forum who do not go to church and cover their racism with "Christianity"

 

[luiza]

Third, believing that ‘god’ wants any ‘race’ to be ‘predominant’ is classic Christo-fascist racism, the stuff of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

Indulge in some Critical Speculation .
There is no Universal (One ) God of the type on offer with Judaic and Christian thinking .
That's the easy bit because that sort of irrational belief is so absurd. Even if you tack on "Faith" as evidence, which actually is just a variation of the "If" argument .

But at one point, and let's guess around 12000 BC, we were visited at several planet locations but probably at the same time .
One of the new Slave Masters from the Sky was the one who took control of the Middle East and adopted a certan tribe as its Slave Class .
That's why a certain group still have ideas that are not obviously backed up with hard fact though there may be evidence that DNA was tweaked because repeatedly Jews are shown as a group to have the highest IQ test results .

Obviously this is the type of speculation which Sheeple would simply laugh at but there is lots of evidence to suggest that such a history is far from a crazed possibility .

 

[surada]

Sorry bout that,

1. Without the white man, this world would still be living on the farm, using candles to light the way.
2. But humankind isn't all about our needs, there's more, lots more.
3. Salvation of the soul is keen.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Americans left the farms and coal mines after WW2.. went to school on the GI Bill.

 

[zaangalewa]

.... Third, believing that ‘god’ wants any ‘race’ to be ‘predominant’ is classic Christo-fascist racism ...

The Nazis had been pagan 'mysticists' (better to say "liars") and modern atheists - but absolutelly not Christians. So what do you understand by using an expression like "classic Christo-fascist racism". Christians are international and exist in all races of the world - and slavery existed in the modern USA but not in "classic" Christians societies - such as in England for example.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Indulge in some Critical Speculation .
There is no Universal (One ) God of the type on offer with Judaic and Christian thinking .
That's the easy bit because that sort of irrational belief is so absurd. Even if you tack on "Faith" as evidence, which actually is just a variation of the "If" argument .

But at one point, and let's guess around 12000 BC, we were visited at several planet locations but probably at the same time .
One of the new Slave Masters from the Sky was the one who took control of the Middle East and adopted a certan tribe as its Slave Class .
That's why a certain group still have ideas that are not obviously backed up with hard fact though there may be evidence that DNA was tweaked because repeatedly Jews are shown as a group to have the highest IQ test results .

Obviously this is the type of speculation which Sheeple would simply laugh at but there is lots of evidence to suggest that such a history is far from a crazed possibility .

The origins of the Christo-fascist right wasn’t opposition to abortion, it was opposition to ending racist segregation policies in schools.

White grievance politics and racist replacement theory isn’t solely about immigration, it’s also about discriminating against Americans of color.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Nazis had been pagan 'mysticists' (better to say "liars") and modern atheists - but absolutelly not Christians. So what do you understand by using an expression like "classic Christo-fascist racism". Christians are international and exist in all races of the world - and slavery existed in the modern USA but not in "classic" Christians societies - such as in England for example.

Racists and bigots have long used their religion and ‘god’ to ‘justify’ their hateful racist and bigoted policies – the Christo-fascist right being among the more infamous examples.

 

[zaangalewa]

Which is, of course, a total load of crap.

Back in the past Anglo-Saxons weren't at the top of the tree. The Romans dominated a lot of Europe. They didn't dominate the Angles or the Saxons much,

What a nonsense. That's partially true but the Anglo-Saxons came after the Romans to "England" and gave England this name. And "partially true" means that the Anglo-Saxons - like all Germanics - had been relativelly free compared for example with the Celts who had been under heavy attacks from the Romans. But many Germanics loved Rome and had always also very good contacts to Romans.

because these people were still in what's now northern Germany. The Angles and the Saxons then felt the need to leave their homeland

Yes and no. The people who live today in the North of Germany are as well Anglo-Saxons as are the Brits now. The classic ancestors of us Germans are Celts, Germanics and Romans (including Jews who also had been Romans since the early 3rd or 4th century). Indeed it is for Germans always a little difficult not to see Germans in the Brits.

and move to what is now England after a while. Then they got totally dumped upon by the Normans (of Viking ancestry).

Europe rose because of the conditions that Europe had, coal, metals and good conditions to produce enough food. China also has this and dominated much more.

Now, in the modern era, China is rising the US can barely function properly, the UK has gone for self destruction with Brexit....

This modern propaganda structures are very intransparent. No idea what the future will bring. For sure GB is not lost, Europe is not lost and the USA is also not lost. We are all together a little more than only economy. I remember in this context a sentence from a famous German whose name I do not remember now. He said: "Irrationality did not grow - but the number of irrationalists did grow."

 

[zaangalewa]

Indulge in some Critical Speculation .
There is no Universal (One ) God of the type on offer with Judaic and Christian thinking .

Why are you always only wrong with nearly everything what you say? One god is one god - and so it is always the same god. That perceptions are different is nothing new.

That's the easy bit because that sort of irrational belief is so absurd.

Sorry: Atheists believe not to believe. That's really absurd for example. About very well known "absurdities" of the Christian faith Christians discuss since two thousand years. With partially very fascinating ideas.

Even if you tack on "Faith" as evidence, which actually is just a variation of the "If" argument .

But at one point, and let's guess around 12000 BC, we were visited at several planet locations but probably at the same time .
One of the new Slave Masters from the Sky was the one who took control of the Middle East and adopted a certan tribe as its Slave Class .
That's why a certain group still have ideas that are not obviously backed up with hard fact though there may be evidence that DNA was tweaked because repeatedly Jews are shown as a group to have the highest IQ test results .

Obviously this is the type of speculation which Sheeple would simply laugh at but there is lots of evidence to suggest that such a history is far from a crazed possibility .

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