God Or Obama..? a dilemma

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    African Americans seem to be caught in a dilemma on this issue..mmm interesting

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    Civil rights or sin?

    When it comes to gay marriage, as recently supported by the first African-American president, many black pastors in the Kansas City area see sin.

    Which places them in the pulpit against the stand taken by Barack Obama, symbol of civil rights history and hero on so many other issues important to black Democrats.

    “This is not a gay issue but a moral issue,” said the Rev. C.L. Bachus, pastor of Mount Zion Baptist Church in Kansas City, Kan. “We know that biblically we are bound to disapprove of same-sex relationships, along with other behaviors that are considered sin.”

    While conceding that younger generations of black Americans are more accepting of such a change, Judy Coffey of Overland Park, a volunteer worker for Obama in 2008, said she hadn’t expected the president’s action.

    “I felt like it was a sucker punch … a political message,” she said. “I was born and bred in Bible-based churches. The majority of African-Americans I’ve talked to are disappointed because the majority has attachments to the church and the Bible.”

    The Rev. Rodney Williams, pastor of Swope Parkway United Christian Church, said he is getting mixed signals from African-Americans with whom he has talked.

    “Some are not sure how they feel,” he said. “Some individuals have become disillusioned.”

    Many gays and their supporters have called it hypocritical for black ministers, who have fought for decades for equal rights, to turn their backs.

    “This insults me beyond measure,” Bachus responded. “We were fighting for our constitutional rights, which were not being applied to us.”

    Recalling growing up in Mississippi when blacks couldn’t walk on the sidewalk if whites were there, he continued:

    “We were not trying to change any rights. I believe all gay people should be treated right, but gays are fighting for a lifestyle. We were fighting for our lives and to be considered a person.”

    Read more here: Same-sex marriage issue divides President Obama, many black ministers - KansasCity.com

    (more to the article) Same-sex marriage issue divides President Obama, many black ministers - KansasCity.com
     
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    Tough call for the Liberal Christian.

    They know Obama is shaking his fist at God, but they want them some free gubmint stuff.

    My guess is most of them still go for the free handouts.
     
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    Statists have co-opted the issue and trying to pretend that GAY and Race are the same.

    They are not.

    "Gay" is NOT a race.
     
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    Liberals do tend to confuse a true understanding of faith with a grocery store.
     
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    :lol: Another racist post by SniperFire. The Tea Party is full of them.
     
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    The Tea Party is full of them.

    That's bullshit...sheesh ...
     
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    I know... SniperFire is a great example.
     
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    No kidding...boggles the mind.
     
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    I've talked to a couple of liberal black preachers, they don't like it, but they are tied politically to the democrat party that’s just the way it is...Sellouts? I think so I cringe every time I see this picture in the pastor’s office..


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    Since when does religion dictate who gets rights and who doesn't? I am a liberal Christian....one who knows that God abhors all sins...not just the ones we pick and choose. Furthermore, civil rights goes beyond race...that they are synonymous is the ideology of narrow and bigoted minds.
     

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