Global Warming takes 2 lives, and the left wingers"at this point what difference does it make"?

[Mikeoxenormous]

67-car pileup in Baltimore as winter storm slams parts of US

A fuel tanker skidded off a Baltimore highway and exploded on Saturday morning, sending sheets of fire in the path of the approaching traffic and triggering a deadly 55-vehicle pileup on the ice-coated roadway, Maryland officials said.

Two people died in a resulting pileup of nearly 70 vehicles on Interstate 95, authorities said.

 

[Crick]

And some of you think this refutes AGW?

 

[JoeB131]

And some of you think this refutes AGW?

He's not terribly bright. He thinks the Bible is real.

 

[skookerasbil]

And some of you think this refutes AGW?

dang s0n.....for a smart guy, its amazing to see somebody not be able to connect some basic dots.

In 2016, AGW is seen as designer science by the public......not even debatable. The public has figured out that you guys base all of your theory on computer models, thus all the predictions.......that crash in a blaze of glory more often than not. Then millions of people watch the coldest Chicago Bears game in history yesterday and just after -30 ball biting cold just last week. Its all about perception s0n..........always has been...........always will be. Nobody is going to be moved, except the hysterical ones, by .5 degree temperature rise over 100 years AND this speculation that its going to get a lot worse. The public has figured out......and the evidence is overwhelming......that nobody knows dick about the climate's future. Polar bubbles only reinforce that fact........its called human behavior s0n!! Its how you learned as a kid that that sweet stuff in a red can that Mom gave to Dad is Coca-Cola. If somebody buys gorgan growing pills and the gorgan grows 1/16 of an inch, only the nut keeps buying them.....its called human behavior s0n.

The "science" is never going to influence anybody over until the weather landscape changes to a significant degree.........which means it will remain an internet hobby and a career for a few thousand scientists.

Wanna bet s0n?

 

[skookerasbil]

And lets not forget........we have a contingent of people out there who blindly put their faith in the experts and government. They are called progressives. To most people they are the suckers of the world, "most" meaning majority. They never question the official narrative.......if government says it is "like this" they believe it 100% of the time. Suckers.

Thankfully, most people don't think that way..........which is why AGW for most people is like Uncle Stanley living out in Scratchmyassville USA by himself. You might think of him twice a year and send a holiday card........but he is virtually irrelevant.

 

[Kosh]

And some of you think this refutes AGW?

See how the AGW cult thinks weather equals climate!

 

[Crick]

You seem to have things turned around. That a cold front refutes AGW would be weather equals climate. That it does neither is the position of mainstream science.

 

[skookerasbil]

You seem to have things turned around. That a cold front refutes AGW would be weather equals climate. That it does neither is the position of mainstream science.

And where exactly is "mainstream" science mattering in the real world?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey remember when a satellite malfunctioned in November and reported that the Arctic was now 40F and the agwists thought it was real

 

[Crick]

Apparently, NSIDC still believes that data to be real:

At this time of year, air temperatures near the surface of the Arctic Ocean are generally well below freezing, but this year has seen exceptional warmth. The overall rate of ice growth this November was 88,000 square kilometers (34,000 square miles) per day, a bit faster than the long-term average of 69,600 square kilometers (26,900 square miles) per day. However, for a brief period in the middle the month, total extent actually decreased by 50,000 square kilometers, or 19,300 square miles—an almost unprecedented occurrence for November over the period of satellite observations. A less pronounced and brief retreat of 14,000 square kilometers (5,400 square miles) occurred in 2013.

Continuing the warm Arctic pattern seen in October, November air temperatures were far above average over the Arctic Ocean and Canada. Air temperatures at the 925 hPa level (about 2,500 feet above sea level) were above the 1981 to 2010 average over the entire Arctic Ocean and, locally up to 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) above average near the North Pole. This is in sharp contrast to northern Eurasia, where temperatures were as much as 4 to 8 degrees Celsius (7 to 14 degrees Fahrenheit) below average (Figure 2b). Record snow events were reported in Sweden and across Siberia early in the month.

 

[leftwinger]

With the Arctic Ovean melting over 32 degrees, where does the freezing weather come from? (does not make sense)

the record temperatures are well below the normal so must come from the Arctic that isnt melting. (does not make sense)
****
shut this thread down for incompetence. I have about had it!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Apparently, NSIDC still believes that data to be real:

At this time of year, air temperatures near the surface of the Arctic Ocean are generally well below freezing, but this year has seen exceptional warmth. The overall rate of ice growth this November was 88,000 square kilometers (34,000 square miles) per day, a bit faster than the long-term average of 69,600 square kilometers (26,900 square miles) per day. However, for a brief period in the middle the month, total extent actually decreased by 50,000 square kilometers, or 19,300 square miles—an almost unprecedented occurrence for November over the period of satellite observations. A less pronounced and brief retreat of 14,000 square kilometers (5,400 square miles) occurred in 2013.

Continuing the warm Arctic pattern seen in October, November air temperatures were far above average over the Arctic Ocean and Canada. Air temperatures at the 925 hPa level (about 2,500 feet above sea level) were above the 1981 to 2010 average over the entire Arctic Ocean and, locally up to 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) above average near the North Pole. This is in sharp contrast to northern Eurasia, where temperatures were as much as 4 to 8 degrees Celsius (7 to 14 degrees Fahrenheit) below average (Figure 2b). Record snow events were reported in Sweden and across Siberia early in the month.

Instead of copying and paste go check the Arctic temperatures today

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Apparently, NSIDC still believes that data to be real:

At this time of year, air temperatures near the surface of the Arctic Ocean are generally well below freezing, but this year has seen exceptional warmth. The overall rate of ice growth this November was 88,000 square kilometers (34,000 square miles) per day, a bit faster than the long-term average of 69,600 square kilometers (26,900 square miles) per day. However, for a brief period in the middle the month, total extent actually decreased by 50,000 square kilometers, or 19,300 square miles—an almost unprecedented occurrence for November over the period of satellite observations. A less pronounced and brief retreat of 14,000 square kilometers (5,400 square miles) occurred in 2013.

Continuing the warm Arctic pattern seen in October, November air temperatures were far above average over the Arctic Ocean and Canada. Air temperatures at the 925 hPa level (about 2,500 feet above sea level) were above the 1981 to 2010 average over the entire Arctic Ocean and, locally up to 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) above average near the North Pole. This is in sharp contrast to northern Eurasia, where temperatures were as much as 4 to 8 degrees Celsius (7 to 14 degrees Fahrenheit) below average (Figure 2b). Record snow events were reported in Sweden and across Siberia early in the month.

Arctic today temps from -21F to an outlier of 20F at Mould bay airport.

Arctic Weather Map

 

[Crick]

I hope you realize that what you've just given us is the product of a climate model. The NSIDC's opinion I gave you was based on EMPIRICAL DATA.

There, how's that feel?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The model predicted the Arctic would be -20F in winter.

That's amazing!

 

[Crick]

If you think those excessive temperatures were caused by satellite drift or some other instrumental error, show us someone with some standing saying so Frank.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you think those excessive temperatures were caused by satellite drift or some other instrumental error, show us someone with some standing saying so Frank.

What's "excessive" about -20F?

You had a satellite glitch for a day and read 32F. I've been monitoring the Arctic temperatures since then and they'll always around -10F.

Please show us these "excessive temperatures"

 

[Crick]

You'v already been provided several well-regarded sources that treat those extremely high temperatures as real. Show us why you think there was a satellite glitch.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You'v already been provided several well-regarded sources that treat those extremely high temperatures as real. Show us why you think there was a satellite glitch.

Are you saying those "extremely high temperatures" are the new normal for the changed Arctic climate

 

[Crick]

No. I'm saying that this:

is not the result of a satellite glitch.