Discussion in 'Immigration/Illegal Immigration' started by ginscpy, Jun 9, 2011.
Thats what built America.
Efficiency and work-ethic.
And being legal (ELLIS ISLAND)
If legal status is the problem let's give a piece of paper to millions of Latinos and Asians. Problem solved.
This kind of posts reveals the absurd, scary climate of intimidation regarding racial issues that exists in America today.
People are bullied into hiding their racial prejudice, what they really think about immigration, behind the "legal status" issue!!
For fuck's sake!! If an american citizen believes that massive hispanic immigration, regardless of its legal status, will drag the US into the Third World he/she should have the right to speak his/her mind freely without fearing being lynched by the rest of the american society!!
Mom was half German.
Dad was half drunk.
Then the Irish-Americans.
They won't be # 1 and 2 very much longer.
Mexicans never heard of standing in line
ginscpy, what are you trying to say?
Over 200 years of slave labor helped and they were not given citizenship until after the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Can't get more efficiency and forced work-ethics than than. After Ellis Island, I don't believe anyone worked as hard and he Irish. Then there were the Chinese. Depending what was being built and when.
Not really. They were only "legal" because all immigration was legal. There was no such thing as "illegal immigration" before the passage of the Immigration Act of 1917. People could come freely to the United States, there was no federally-imposed regulation of immigration (except against the Chinese). The majority of German and Irish immigrants to the US came before then, in the late 19th Century. People during this period described these immigrants in the exact same terms that people today talk about the Mexicans - they're destroying our values, they're lazy, they've overrunning the system, they refuse to learn the language, they'll ruin the country, but it wasn't until 1917 that anything was done about it (thanks to several Presidents' vetoes in preceding years).
Anyway, claiming that these past immigrants were "more efficient" or had a "better work ethic" is groundless. Cultural theories of development like that (ie, Webber's stuff on the "protestant work ethic" vs the "catholic work ethic") have been thoroughly debunked and abandoned for decades by anyone who's actually taken the time to go through them.
The big difference between Latin Americans and people from the rest of the world was demonstrated during WW1 and WW2. Latinos felt absolutely no responsibility for protecting the people around the globe. They still feel that way. And this will make them good Americans?
Cultures change but Latin America is still stuck in the mud of its own creation. All nations around the world, except tiny pacific islanders and Latin America, have advanced their civilizations. Latinos prefer to blame the United States for everything rather than fix it themselves.
This is almost too stupid to respond.
- World War I had nothing to do with Latin America or with protecting anything, why the fuck would we get involved with it? The US got involved with it at the final hour despite the fact that the vast majority of people were against involvement. The only reason "the rest of the world" (another false assumption) was involved is because almost the entire rest of the world was dominated by Britain and France's colonial empires.
- Nearly all the countries in Latin America declared war on Hitler and the Japanese within months of Pearl Harbor.
- As for protecting people around the globe, please give it a break. Tremendous job you jingoists are doing "protecting" Iraqis and Afghans for the past 10 years. Mexico should probably go ahead and pick a smaller brown country to bomb, say, Tajikistan to "protect" it, like you guys do. good job "protecting" Vietnam, and the Philippines and Cuba, and Guatemala, and Nicaragua. With friends like you...
- More mythical shit from people who just don't know the facts. South America has been one of the fastest growing regions in the world for the past decade. Brazil has become an economic powerhouse, lifting millions of people out of poverty and finally breaking away from Washington's tutelage and growing at 7.5% last year to the US's 2.8 - along with Paraguay (15%), Argentina (9%), Peru (9%), Panama (8.5%), Uruguay (8.5%), etc. 30 years ago the entire place was riddled with dictatorships (mostly backed and supported by the US government, another example of your kind "protection"), not so the case today.
In any case, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I dunno if you've been reading the news lately, but if anyone's "stuck in the mud of their own creation" it's you.
I can't say I blame them for not celebrating their heritage quite like the Irish and Italians.
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