Gergis 2012, new southern hemisphere hockey stick

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    http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/melbourne.pdf

    is anybody interested in this paper? anyone following it? Old Rocks- it supports Mann, does that mean you are OK with it?

    any warmers out there willing to discuss the methodologies used? hahahaha
     
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    If it says Co2 is bad, then the paper is wrong.

    If it says CO2 is alright, then the paper is correct.

    No need to read it, FOX has made up my mind for me already.
     
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    its says-
    its hard to say whether that means good or bad, hahahaha. I suspect they want us to infer that it is bad.
     
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    Perhaps they are just trying to communicate science.
     
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    perhaps. their methodology appears to be somewhat suspect. thats why I was hoping some warmist would post up links saying how wonderful this paper is, and how it already has a favoured spot in AR5.
     
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    What is suspect about it?

    ??? What's so wonderful about it ???
     
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    first and foremost is cherrypicking. Gergis stated that they used 27 out of 62 available proxy series and then proceeded to give the criteria for choosing the 27.

    when asked to see the data for the unused proxies they refused.

    when the proxy series that were chosen were put through the selection process by outside investigators, many of them failed to meet the criteria.

    same old climate science story. cherrypick the data which best supports your preconceived conclusion, invent an ad hoc selection protocol that helps to cover your cherrypicking, then hide and obscure the data and methodologies so that your paper gets a good first impression that people remember before the whole thing get exposed as yet another fraud based on faulty science. these people have no shame.
     
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    from Climate Audit-

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    RealClimate doesnt seem to have much to say-

    from 22may12, nothing lately.
     
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    the IPCC report due out next year has already cites Gergis12-

    they say there are new paleo records but all the proxies are old.
     
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