GDP grows to 2.6% in second quarter of Trump

[rightwinger]

After a lackluster 1.2% in the first quarter of 2017. GDP returned to Obama-like numbers of 2.6% in the second quarter

Still, far below the 4% growth that Trump promised

U.S. economy accelerated during first full Trump quarterx

The GDP rate will never reach 3% without more long term demand for capital investment in China, India, Brazil, etc.

Bullshit

Trump will give us 4 percent
He promised

 

[Correll]

I was in the Army so it was all the same to me...

Odd, I was in high school when Reagan was elected and recall the wave of discussion as Reagan gave big wage increases to the military personnel.

Not to mention, having vast amounts on new equipment and weapons available for if or when your lives were on the line...


I would think all of that would matter, a lot.

I served under Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton......................we did in fact get good pay raises under Reagan and his policies rebuilt the military that every President since him has had the benefit of.

I worked for DoD under Reagan
Good times, whatever you wanted to buy was approved.

Problem was they were Cold War purchases for a Cold War doctrine. Much of what we purchased was obsolete within a decade and the Armed forces wound down as the threat diminished

They made purchases during the COld War for the COld War, that only a few visionaries expected to end any time soon.


It was not a problem that the Cold War ended, it was a freaking miracle!


And of course the us military wound down as the threat diminished. Why is that a problem?

Point being, that most of the equipment we bought under Reagan did not end up being used. Doctrine changed from heavy armor and checkmate strategy to lighter, more mobile troops

It was used to deter aggression from the Soviets, it's primary mission.


And where do you think the heavy tanks and the fast transport ships GHWBush used in the FIrst Gulf War, came from?

 

[Correll]

Your questions are irrelevant to Yardogs post and mine.

And does not address the fact that you dishonestly pretended that there could not be obstruction between TRump and a republcian congress.


You are a liar.

Trump is an asshole, we all know that
But he is an empty suit that Congress knows will rubber stamp whatever they send up

Unfortunately, Trump is such a poor leader that he can't get Congress to agree on anything

That is ineptness not obstruction

Your attempt to distract from your blatant lying is noted.


As you show yourself to be more and more dishonest, you reduce the motivation of any reader to give anything you say and consideration.


If you have no respect for what crap you post, why should we?

Trump does not get along with anyone
Not Congress, not his staff, not the media, not the courts, not the Intel community, not foreign leaders

That is not obstruction...that is an inept leader

Much of the gop leadership was willing to lose to Hillary than win with Trump.

This is not about Trump, this is about them being assholes.

And your pretense that you were unaware of this.

That is about you being a liar.

Leadership involves building coalitions and building trust

Something Trump is incapable of

You still dancing around the fact that you lied.

 

[Correll]

I asked you a serious question. It is a serious answer to your question, if you would just answer it.



DId you take him seriously when he called 2.6 % a disaster?

Absolutely

Why would he lie to the American people?

You just lied.


It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.



That you felt a need to lie, shows that you know that you are in the wrong. Yet you actively choose to be wrong, and to argue for positions that you do not believe in.





Trump's comments on 2.6% and 4% was a hyperbolic statement of intent to be more aggressive in economic policy, aiming for higher rates of growth.


This is the standard to hold him to, if he makes a good faith effort to do that, and what results he gets.


DO you think that judging him on those standards will work for you?

Because you are acting like you don't believe that.

Typical brain-dead trumptard sycophancy.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, he didn't really mean it anyway.

No wonder rightwing cultist boobs love him -- to them, he can do no wrong.

It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.

You are exactly how I portrayed you.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, it was just hyperbole.

You're a hypnotized cult member.

Your lack of imagination is not my problem.


But if you are only able to imagine two possible outcomes, perhaps you should ask some questions.

 

[rightwinger]

Odd, I was in high school when Reagan was elected and recall the wave of discussion as Reagan gave big wage increases to the military personnel.

Not to mention, having vast amounts on new equipment and weapons available for if or when your lives were on the line...


I would think all of that would matter, a lot.

I served under Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton......................we did in fact get good pay raises under Reagan and his policies rebuilt the military that every President since him has had the benefit of.

I worked for DoD under Reagan
Good times, whatever you wanted to buy was approved.

Problem was they were Cold War purchases for a Cold War doctrine. Much of what we purchased was obsolete within a decade and the Armed forces wound down as the threat diminished

They made purchases during the COld War for the COld War, that only a few visionaries expected to end any time soon.


It was not a problem that the Cold War ended, it was a freaking miracle!


And of course the us military wound down as the threat diminished. Why is that a problem?

Point being, that most of the equipment we bought under Reagan did not end up being used. Doctrine changed from heavy armor and checkmate strategy to lighter, more mobile troops

It was used to deter aggression from the Soviets, it's primary mission.


And where do you think the heavy tanks and the fast transport ships GHWBush used in the FIrst Gulf War, came from?

We fought with what we had
But even Bush 41 started breaking down the forces after the Cold War ended. By the 90s we had a whole new doctrine and a whole new threat

 

[MarkClaude]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

 

[Faun]

After a lackluster 1.2% in the first quarter of 2017. GDP returned to Obama-like numbers of 2.6% in the second quarter

Still, far below the 4% growth that Trump promised

U.S. economy accelerated during first full Trump quarterx

The GDP rate will never reach 3% without more long term demand for capital investment in China, India, Brazil, etc.

Bullshit

Trump will give us 4 percent
He promised

Umm... he also promised to release his tax returns. Instead, all we got were empty folders filled with air and blank paper during s half-assed bluff...

 

[eagle1462010]

I asked you a serious question. It is a serious answer to your question, if you would just answer it.



DId you take him seriously when he called 2.6 % a disaster?

Absolutely

Why would he lie to the American people?

You just lied.


It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.



That you felt a need to lie, shows that you know that you are in the wrong. Yet you actively choose to be wrong, and to argue for positions that you do not believe in.





Trump's comments on 2.6% and 4% was a hyperbolic statement of intent to be more aggressive in economic policy, aiming for higher rates of growth.


This is the standard to hold him to, if he makes a good faith effort to do that, and what results he gets.


DO you think that judging him on those standards will work for you?

Because you are acting like you don't believe that.

Typical brain-dead trumptard sycophancy.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, he didn't really mean it anyway.

No wonder rightwing cultist boobs love him -- to them, he can do no wrong.

What a load of Horse Hockey...............As long as he's trying to fulfill his promises I have no problem with it, and HE IS DOING SO..............

So when the Legislative Branch doesn't go along.........IT'S HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT. Did you fall on your head at birth...........................

Presidents can only sign what is on their desk..........They can try to sell legislation.........they can put forward budgets.......but they can't make Congress and the Senate put it on their desk......................

The Constitution made it hard to pass laws for a reason...........so no one group could under a temporary majority pass everything of their hearts desires..............the blocking of Obama being a key example..........and now those refusing to agree within the GOP itself.........In this way our elected leaders are SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER LAW as INTENDED under the framework of the Constitution...........

That negotiation has DIED.................We NOW HAVE 2 OPPOSING PARTIES AT WAR with each other...........and we have LAWS going forward that HAVE NO INPUT from the other side.............ENSURING that a future administration of a Temporary Majority will attack what is passed now..................

Those in office refusing to serve the people and putting forward compromise in a give an take process should be TARRED AND FEATHERED and RUN THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.............And take their DAMNED ILLEGAL NON PROFIT FOUNDATIONS WITH THEM.

What pathetic excuses. Leaders lead. When Obama wanted he stimulus package passed, he pushed it through Congress. Trump's party controls both chambers in Congress and the most significant legislation they can pass was to compete for a world expo.

Where are his major campaign promises? Where's the 4% GDP growth? Why does ISIS still exist after he's been in office for more than 30 days? Why is Hillary not in jail? Where's his wall that Mexico is going to pay for? Why is ObamaCare not been replaced? Where's his 35% tariff?

Does he...................REALLY............

Or haven't you noticed something.................

Leaders Lead...............RIGHT.....................

Like into Libya which is still in Chaos.........

Like a red crayon line in Syria..........and they still used the gas later........

Like in Yemen were Obama said everything is GREAT..........And we were forced to abandon our embassy and escorted out of the country at gunpoint.

Please don't tell me ABOUT LEADERSHIP FROM OBAMA..................HE SUCKED ASS as Commander N Chief.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is an asshole, we all know that
But he is an empty suit that Congress knows will rubber stamp whatever they send up

Unfortunately, Trump is such a poor leader that he can't get Congress to agree on anything

That is ineptness not obstruction

Your attempt to distract from your blatant lying is noted.


As you show yourself to be more and more dishonest, you reduce the motivation of any reader to give anything you say and consideration.


If you have no respect for what crap you post, why should we?

Trump does not get along with anyone
Not Congress, not his staff, not the media, not the courts, not the Intel community, not foreign leaders

That is not obstruction...that is an inept leader

Much of the gop leadership was willing to lose to Hillary than win with Trump.

This is not about Trump, this is about them being assholes.

And your pretense that you were unaware of this.

That is about you being a liar.

Leadership involves building coalitions and building trust

Something Trump is incapable of

You still dancing around the fact that you lied.

You have still failed in your attempt to support your claim that anyone is blocking Trump outside his own ineptness

He is a new President with a Republican Congress and Conservative court...he should be halfway through his agenda by now. He is a monumental failure

 

[eagle1462010]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

 

[Faun]

Absolutely

Why would he lie to the American people?

You just lied.


It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.



That you felt a need to lie, shows that you know that you are in the wrong. Yet you actively choose to be wrong, and to argue for positions that you do not believe in.





Trump's comments on 2.6% and 4% was a hyperbolic statement of intent to be more aggressive in economic policy, aiming for higher rates of growth.


This is the standard to hold him to, if he makes a good faith effort to do that, and what results he gets.


DO you think that judging him on those standards will work for you?

Because you are acting like you don't believe that.

Typical brain-dead trumptard sycophancy.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, he didn't really mean it anyway.

No wonder rightwing cultist boobs love him -- to them, he can do no wrong.

What a load of Horse Hockey...............As long as he's trying to fulfill his promises I have no problem with it, and HE IS DOING SO..............

So when the Legislative Branch doesn't go along.........IT'S HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT. Did you fall on your head at birth...........................

Presidents can only sign what is on their desk..........They can try to sell legislation.........they can put forward budgets.......but they can't make Congress and the Senate put it on their desk......................

The Constitution made it hard to pass laws for a reason...........so no one group could under a temporary majority pass everything of their hearts desires..............the blocking of Obama being a key example..........and now those refusing to agree within the GOP itself.........In this way our elected leaders are SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER LAW as INTENDED under the framework of the Constitution...........

That negotiation has DIED.................We NOW HAVE 2 OPPOSING PARTIES AT WAR with each other...........and we have LAWS going forward that HAVE NO INPUT from the other side.............ENSURING that a future administration of a Temporary Majority will attack what is passed now..................

Those in office refusing to serve the people and putting forward compromise in a give an take process should be TARRED AND FEATHERED and RUN THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.............And take their DAMNED ILLEGAL NON PROFIT FOUNDATIONS WITH THEM.

What pathetic excuses. Leaders lead. When Obama wanted he stimulus package passed, he pushed it through Congress. Trump's party controls both chambers in Congress and the most significant legislation they can pass was to compete for a world expo.

Where are his major campaign promises? Where's the 4% GDP growth? Why does ISIS still exist after he's been in office for more than 30 days? Why is Hillary not in jail? Where's his wall that Mexico is going to pay for? Why is ObamaCare not been replaced? Where's his 35% tariff?

Does he...................REALLY............

Or haven't you noticed something.................

Leaders Lead...............RIGHT.....................

Like into Libya which is still in Chaos.........

Like a red crayon line in Syria..........and they still used the gas later........

Like in Yemen were Obama said everything is GREAT..........And we were forced to abandon our embassy and escorted out of the country at gunpoint.

Please don't tell me ABOUT LEADERSHIP FROM OBAMA..................HE SUCKED ASS as Commander N Chief.

He got what he wanted from Congress by pushing his measures through. Trump, whose party controls both chambers, doesn't. He just sits back and whines about Washington while his sycophants make up the silliest excuses for him.

 

[rightwinger]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

 

[longknife]

BACK ON THREAD!

Under President Trump the US GDP Surpasses $19 Trillion for the First Time Ever

That’s one hell of a lot of $$$$$.

GDP is one of the most comprehensive and closely watched economic statistics: It is used by the White House and Congress to prepare the Federal budget, by the Federal Reserve to formulate monetary policy, by Wall Street as an indicator of economic activity, and by the business community to prepare forecasts of economic performance that provide the basis for production, investment, and employment planning.

Full story @ Under President Trump the US GDP Surpasses $19 Trillion for the First Time Ever

 

[eagle1462010]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

Yet earlier in the thread you stated we don't use the equipment now that was started under Reagan............

Sat Nav and Nav Sat ring a bell with you...................

B1B's no longer in use............

Aegis Class DDG's no longer in use............

Harpoons no longer in use...................

F/A 18's no longer in use even though they are starting to try and phase them out..............

Abrams Tanks no longer in use.................

Why did you earlier make that statement.................and do you retract that statement now...........

 

[rightwinger]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

Yet earlier in the thread you stated we don't use the equipment now that was started under Reagan............

Sat Nav and Nav Sat ring a bell with you...................

B1B's no longer in use............

Aegis Class DDG's no longer in use............

Harpoons no longer in use...................

F/A 18's no longer in use even though they are starting to try and phase them out..............

Abrams Tanks no longer in use.................

Why did you earlier make that statement.................and do you retract that statement now...........

Once again conservatives struggle with absolutes

 

[MarkClaude]

Absolutely

Why would he lie to the American people?

You just lied.


It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.



That you felt a need to lie, shows that you know that you are in the wrong. Yet you actively choose to be wrong, and to argue for positions that you do not believe in.





Trump's comments on 2.6% and 4% was a hyperbolic statement of intent to be more aggressive in economic policy, aiming for higher rates of growth.


This is the standard to hold him to, if he makes a good faith effort to do that, and what results he gets.


DO you think that judging him on those standards will work for you?

Because you are acting like you don't believe that.

Typical brain-dead trumptard sycophancy.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, he didn't really mean it anyway.

No wonder rightwing cultist boobs love him -- to them, he can do no wrong.

It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.

You are exactly how I portrayed you.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, it was just hyperbole.

You're a hypnotized cult member.

Absolutely

Why would he lie to the American people?

You just lied.


It is not credible that you did not note that he is regular user of hyperbole.



That you felt a need to lie, shows that you know that you are in the wrong. Yet you actively choose to be wrong, and to argue for positions that you do not believe in.





Trump's comments on 2.6% and 4% was a hyperbolic statement of intent to be more aggressive in economic policy, aiming for higher rates of growth.


This is the standard to hold him to, if he makes a good faith effort to do that, and what results he gets.


DO you think that judging him on those standards will work for you?

Because you are acting like you don't believe that.

Typical brain-dead trumptard sycophancy.

If Trump does what he said he would do, he's keeping his campaign promises.

If he doesn't do what he said he would do, he didn't really mean it anyway.

No wonder rightwing cultist boobs love him -- to them, he can do no wrong.

What a load of Horse Hockey...............As long as he's trying to fulfill his promises I have no problem with it, and HE IS DOING SO..............

So when the Legislative Branch doesn't go along.........IT'S HE REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT. Did you fall on your head at birth...........................

Presidents can only sign what is on their desk..........They can try to sell legislation.........they can put forward budgets.......but they can't make Congress and the Senate put it on their desk......................

The Constitution made it hard to pass laws for a reason...........so no one group could under a temporary majority pass everything of their hearts desires..............the blocking of Obama being a key example..........and now those refusing to agree within the GOP itself.........In this way our elected leaders are SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER LAW as INTENDED under the framework of the Constitution...........

That negotiation has DIED.................We NOW HAVE 2 OPPOSING PARTIES AT WAR with each other...........and we have LAWS going forward that HAVE NO INPUT from the other side.............ENSURING that a future administration of a Temporary Majority will attack what is passed now..................

Those in office refusing to serve the people and putting forward compromise in a give an take process should be TARRED AND FEATHERED and RUN THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.............And take their DAMNED ILLEGAL NON PROFIT FOUNDATIONS WITH THEM.

What pathetic excuses. Leaders lead. When Obama wanted he stimulus package passed, he pushed it through Congress. Trump's party controls both chambers in Congress and the most significant legislation they can pass was to compete for a world expo.

Where are his major campaign promises? Where's the 4% GDP growth? Why does ISIS still exist after he's been in office for more than 30 days? Why is Hillary not in jail? Where's his wall that Mexico is going to pay for? Why is ObamaCare not been replaced? Where's his 35% tariff?

Does he...................REALLY............

Or haven't you noticed something.................

Leaders Lead...............RIGHT.....................

Like into Libya which is still in Chaos.........

Like a red crayon line in Syria..........and they still used the gas later........

Like in Yemen were Obama said everything is GREAT..........And we were forced to abandon our embassy and escorted out of the country at gunpoint.

Please don't tell me ABOUT LEADERSHIP FROM OBAMA..................HE SUCKED ASS as Commander N Chief.

Your lack of imagination is not my problem.


But if you are only able to imagine two possible outcomes, perhaps you should ask some questions.

None of that detracts that Trump's leadership ability in a government position is most questionable.

 

[eagle1462010]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

Yet earlier in the thread you stated we don't use the equipment now that was started under Reagan............

Sat Nav and Nav Sat ring a bell with you...................

B1B's no longer in use............

Aegis Class DDG's no longer in use............

Harpoons no longer in use...................

F/A 18's no longer in use even though they are starting to try and phase them out..............

Abrams Tanks no longer in use.................

Why did you earlier make that statement.................and do you retract that statement now...........

Once again conservatives struggle with absolutes

ABSOLUTELY..............You absolutely stated a STRAW MAN that stated we don't use what Reagan started today...............

I called your bluff and you tried to SMOKE SCREEN IT WITH THE BATTLESHIP........

 

[rightwinger]

Correll is incorrectly saying that RightWinger is lying when it is clear that is not the case.

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

Yet earlier in the thread you stated we don't use the equipment now that was started under Reagan............

Sat Nav and Nav Sat ring a bell with you...................

B1B's no longer in use............

Aegis Class DDG's no longer in use............

Harpoons no longer in use...................

F/A 18's no longer in use even though they are starting to try and phase them out..............

Abrams Tanks no longer in use.................

Why did you earlier make that statement.................and do you retract that statement now...........

Once again conservatives struggle with absolutes

ABSOLUTELY..............You absolutely stated a STRAW MAN that stated we don't use what Reagan started today...............

I called your bluff and you tried to SMOKE SCREEN IT WITH THE BATTLESHIP........

Not only do you struggle with absolutes.... you struggle with reading comprehension

Much of what we purchased is not the same thing as Everything we purchased

 

[eagle1462010]

I beg to differ. Everyone in the service then KNEW DAMNED WELL REAGAN WAS UPGRADING THE MILITARY.

Of course he did

I worked for both the Navy and later the Army during that period. Everything got green lighted. Reagan even wanted Star Wars

He borrowed heavily to pay for the new equipment and it created jobs

Yet earlier in the thread you stated we don't use the equipment now that was started under Reagan............

Sat Nav and Nav Sat ring a bell with you...................

B1B's no longer in use............

Aegis Class DDG's no longer in use............

Harpoons no longer in use...................

F/A 18's no longer in use even though they are starting to try and phase them out..............

Abrams Tanks no longer in use.................

Why did you earlier make that statement.................and do you retract that statement now...........

Once again conservatives struggle with absolutes

ABSOLUTELY..............You absolutely stated a STRAW MAN that stated we don't use what Reagan started today...............

I called your bluff and you tried to SMOKE SCREEN IT WITH THE BATTLESHIP........

Not only do you struggle with absolutes.... you struggle with reading comprehension

Much of what we purchased is not the same thing as Everything we purchased

Again........ABSOLUTELY.

and this is diverting the thread anyway........we agree to disagree

 

[rightwinger]

I expected the Trump economy to be about the same as the Obama economy. GDP in the 2.2 to 2.7 range with occasional quarters higher or lower

But that was not enough for our President. He called that performance a disaster and promised not 3 percent but 4 percent GDP

So that is what I am holding Trump to