Gaza Freedom Flotilla: Not Just another Middle East Crisis

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMh_va8THnk]YouTube - Euronews: Aid ships head for Gaza and trouble with Israel[/ame]

 

[Jos]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

Illegal Immigrants, from where?

 

[Neubarth]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

Illegal Immigrants, from where?

Most of the Mexican like Illegal Immigrants in Gaza were Egyptians who fled the creation of Israel under the orders of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1948. Read your history.

 

[Jos]

Most of the Mexican like Illegal Immigrants in Gaza were Egyptians who fled the creation of Israel under the orders of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1948. Read your history.

1948 eh? that would mean those people (like yourself, joe) over 62 years old.
Did you know Almost Half of Gaza's population is under 15?, I guess they were born there, the over 65's acount for 2.6% of the population
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook//geos/gz.html

 

[P F Tinmore]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

Illegal Immigrants, from where?

Most of the Mexican like Illegal Immigrants in Gaza were Egyptians who fled the creation of Israel under the orders of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1948. Read your history.

In order to excuse themselves from any responsibility of war crimes, Zionists have concocted a myth that Palestinians were ordered by their leaders to abandon their homes. As it will be proven below, this version of events was conclusively proven wrong based on Israeli declassified documents. According to the Israeli historian Benny Morris:

'Whatever the reasoning and attitude of the Arab states' leaders, I have found no contemporary evidence to show that either the leaders of the Arab states or the Mufti [Hajj Amin al-Husseini] ordered or directly encouraged the mass exodus during April [1948]. It may be worth noting that for decades the policy of the Palestinian Arab leaders had been to hold fast to the soil of Palestine and to resist the eviction and displacement of Arab communities'. (Benny Morris, p. 66)

Isn't it true that Palestinians left their homes during the 1948 war because their leaders asked them to do so?

 

[Jos]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

The chorus has been singing songs of falsehood and lies. We are all in the chorus saying there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. We are all part of the chorus claiming the occupation of Gaza has ended, and that the flotilla is a violent attack on Israeli sovereignty - the cement is for building bunkers and the convoy is being funded by the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood. The Israeli siege of Gaza will topple Hamas and free Gilad Shalit. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy, one of the most ridiculous of the propagandists, outdid himself when he unblinkingly proclaimed that the aid convoy headed toward Gaza was a violation of international law. Right. Exactly.

It's not the siege that is illegal, but rather the flotilla.

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

 

[Marc39]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

The chorus has been singing songs of falsehood and lies. We are all in the chorus saying there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. We are all part of the chorus claiming the occupation of Gaza has ended, and that the flotilla is a violent attack on Israeli sovereignty - the cement is for building bunkers and the convoy is being funded by the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood. The Israeli siege of Gaza will topple Hamas and free Gilad Shalit. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy, one of the most ridiculous of the propagandists, outdid himself when he unblinkingly proclaimed that the aid convoy headed toward Gaza was a violation of international law. Right. Exactly.

It's not the siege that is illegal, but rather the flotilla.

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

 

[P F Tinmore]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

The chorus has been singing songs of falsehood and lies. We are all in the chorus saying there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. We are all part of the chorus claiming the occupation of Gaza has ended, and that the flotilla is a violent attack on Israeli sovereignty - the cement is for building bunkers and the convoy is being funded by the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood. The Israeli siege of Gaza will topple Hamas and free Gilad Shalit. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy, one of the most ridiculous of the propagandists, outdid himself when he unblinkingly proclaimed that the aid convoy headed toward Gaza was a violation of international law. Right. Exactly.

It's not the siege that is illegal, but rather the flotilla.

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

Get out the hip boots!

 

[tommywho70x]

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

Get out the hip boots!

hip boots are not protection enough for the toxic fecal material spewed from whatever one should call that mass of tissue inside professor marcus analicus' skull.

some other one of the learned professor's students has recommended full biohazard suit with bottled air when in contact with the noxious fumes associated with the professor's thought processes.

 

[Marc39]

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

Get out the hip boots!

Open a law book, Forum Dunce.

 

[Hollybaere]

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.

Oh really? Wasn't it you back in #81 of this thread that claimed: "Those would be the same Turks who occupied Palestine for 400 years during the Ottoman Empire, denying the poor Palestinians independence."

So what is Israel doing any different than you claim Turkey did??

Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

But don't bother to mention that the Palestinian's aren't allowed to be signatories to Conventions governing occupation, conveniently by Israel. Ans also, don't forget to mention that Hamas was created by Israel as a deterant for the PLO.

Isn't it always convenient when you can invent your own enemies??

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Got a link to that "binding Palestine Mandate"??

FYI: Bullshit propaganda such as your links about the markets in Palestine and olympic pools will not be accepted.

 

[Nik]

We need to sink the damn boats and kill as many of these radicals as possible. As we know, anything can be shipped into Gaza from Egypt. There is no need to pretend that Israel is depriving the Illegal immigrants in Gaza from food or medical supplies. That is a lie and needs to be punished with torpedoes.

The chorus has been singing songs of falsehood and lies. We are all in the chorus saying there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. We are all part of the chorus claiming the occupation of Gaza has ended, and that the flotilla is a violent attack on Israeli sovereignty - the cement is for building bunkers and the convoy is being funded by the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood. The Israeli siege of Gaza will topple Hamas and free Gilad Shalit. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy, one of the most ridiculous of the propagandists, outdid himself when he unblinkingly proclaimed that the aid convoy headed toward Gaza was a violation of international law. Right. Exactly.

It's not the siege that is illegal, but rather the flotilla.

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

If you are going to try to school someone else on the facts, make sure you aren't talking completely out of your ass.

Territories can be occupied, which is what Gaza is. Which is why if you ever read anything more complicated than Dr. Seuss books, you'd know that Gaza is referred too constantly as an "occupied territory".

It doesn't matter whether Palestinians are signatories to the conventions.

Gazans are in violation of international law? International law only applies to states, not individuals (except in a few rare occasions, none of which are applicable here). As Gaza is, as you pointed out, not a state, they cannot be in violation of international law.

Legally binding Palestine Mandate? Under exactly what law is it legally binding? Please do be specific. And please state how that law has jurisdiction over Gaza.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza flotilla drives Israel into a sea of stupidity - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

If you are going to try to school someone else on the facts, make sure you aren't talking completely out of your ass.

Territories can be occupied, which is what Gaza is. Which is why if you ever read anything more complicated than Dr. Seuss books, you'd know that Gaza is referred too constantly as an "occupied territory".

It doesn't matter whether Palestinians are signatories to the conventions.

Gazans are in violation of international law? International law only applies to states, not individuals (except in a few rare occasions, none of which are applicable here). As Gaza is, as you pointed out, not a state, they cannot be in violation of international law.

Legally binding Palestine Mandate? Under exactly what law is it legally binding? Please do be specific. And please state how that law has jurisdiction over Gaza.

You won't get anything intelligent out of marc. He just blows smoke and calls names.

Marc39 claims that the Palestine Mandate created a Jewish state in all of Palestine. The Palestine Mandate specified that it does not.

The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate
British Mandate for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?

Israel claims that its legitimacy comes from the UN, that UN resolution 181 created the state of Israel. This is not true. Resolution 181 was a General Assembly resolution that was to be sent to the Security council for approval and implementation. The Security Council never addressed Resolution 181. The UN did not create Israel.

 

[Neubarth]

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?u

God JHVH does not recognize any Palestine Mandate. First of all there are no Palestinians. There are only people who have trespassed on God's land of Eden, and God says that the penalty for trespassing on His land is death. Now, either the idiots from Egypt or Syria who call themselves Palestinians can either run like hell for Arabia or they can die. Since they worship Satan, they have no right to be in the land of JHVH. God has spoken. His Word is final. Amen Halleluia!

 

[tommywho70x]

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?u

God JHVH does not recognize any Palestine Mandate. First of all there are no Palestinians. There are only people who have trespassed on God's land of Eden, and God says that the penalty for trespassing on His land is death. Now, either the idiots from Egypt or Syria who call themselves Palestinians can either run like hell for Arabia or they can die. Since they worship Satan, they have no right to be in the land of JHVH. God has spoken. His Word is final. Amen Halleluia!

ooo-eee! this one is claiming a hot line to hashem?

i hope you are absolutely certain your input is coming from the holy one, praised be he, oh great prophetic one.

if you are wrong, i'm pretty sure there is a slot for you on the dinner menu. they'll wrap your ass in a robe dipped in shit for a marinade before they truss you up to the BBQ spit.

youse gonna be one succulent roast beast, bubbah

oh yeah, josie: loved that last article. it helps to restore my confidence in the old ability of the jews to criticize themselves. it's been taking a beating lately from perfesser marcus analicus, rabbi putzkopf and their flocks.

 

[Nik]

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?u

God JHVH does not recognize any Palestine Mandate. First of all there are no Palestinians. There are only people who have trespassed on God's land of Eden, and God says that the penalty for trespassing on His land is death. Now, either the idiots from Egypt or Syria who call themselves Palestinians can either run like hell for Arabia or they can die. Since they worship Satan, they have no right to be in the land of JHVH. God has spoken. His Word is final. Amen Halleluia!

God totally told me he thinks you have terrible BO. Totally.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jose, too bad your expertise is in picking olives and not international law.

Gaza is not a sovereign Pallie state and, thus, cannot be occupied.
Pallies are not signatores to Conventions governing occupation.
Gazans are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terorrist groups and in attacking Israel.

Gaza is sovereign Israeli territory under the legally binding Palestine Mandate.

Now, you know, Jose. Esta muy intelligente ahora.

If you are going to try to school someone else on the facts, make sure you aren't talking completely out of your ass.

Territories can be occupied, which is what Gaza is. Which is why if you ever read anything more complicated than Dr. Seuss books, you'd know that Gaza is referred too constantly as an "occupied territory".

It doesn't matter whether Palestinians are signatories to the conventions.

Gazans are in violation of international law? International law only applies to states, not individuals (except in a few rare occasions, none of which are applicable here). As Gaza is, as you pointed out, not a state, they cannot be in violation of international law.

Legally binding Palestine Mandate? Under exactly what law is it legally binding? Please do be specific. And please state how that law has jurisdiction over Gaza.

You won't get anything intelligent out of marc. He just blows smoke and calls names.

Marc39 claims that the Palestine Mandate created a Jewish state in all of Palestine. The Palestine Mandate specified that it does not.

The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate
British Mandate for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?

Israel claims that its legitimacy comes from the UN, that UN resolution 181 created the state of Israel. This is not true. Resolution 181 was a General Assembly resolution that was to be sent to the Security council for approval and implementation. The Security Council never addressed Resolution 181. The UN did not create Israel.

Sorry about the edit. My 4 year old posted before I was finished.

 

[Neubarth]

That does not matter because the Mandate flopped. The Plan did not take place. Proof that it did not take place was UN Resolution 181. Why would there be a partition plan, and why would Israel (at the time a yet to be declared state within a state) accept a state on part of Palestine when they got the whole pie 25 years earlier?u

God JHVH does not recognize any Palestine Mandate. First of all there are no Palestinians. There are only people who have trespassed on God's land of Eden, and God says that the penalty for trespassing on His land is death. Now, either the idiots from Egypt or Syria who call themselves Palestinians can either run like hell for Arabia or they can die. Since they worship Satan, they have no right to be in the land of JHVH. God has spoken. His Word is final. Amen Halleluia!

God totally told me he thinks you have terrible BO. Totally.

Spawn of Satan, you can resort to foolish attacks and innuendo. I bath two times a day. I am very active with my congregation of born again Christians.

Since you are the offspring of Satan I expect blasphemy as you constantly utter.

You will die soon for your sins and IN your sins. Knowing that, you are condemned to Hell for all eternity.

Shame that. You had an opportunity to turn to God, but you mocked Him and allowed Satan to possess you and breed with you. You are now an abomination unto the Lord and need to be removed from this Earth according to the Bible. I suppose you can still try to turn to God, but I do not think it will work. God will not be fooled by someone as satanically evil as you. Just go to Hell where you belong and let the rest of the world seek after God JHVH.

 

[Neubarth]

i hope you are absolutely certain your input is coming from the holy one, praised be he, oh great prophetic one.

if you are wrong, i'm pretty sure there is a slot for you on the dinner menu. they'll wrap your ass in a robe dipped in shit for a marinade before they truss you up to the BBQ spit.

youse gonna be one succulent roast beast, bubbah

oh yeah, josie: loved that last article. it helps to restore my confidence in the old ability of the jews to criticize themselves. it's been taking a beating lately from perfesser marcus analicus, rabbi putzkopf and their flocks.

Your crude vulgarity is totally indicative of your Satanic possession. You are condemned to death. Your death will be soon. Enjoy your eternity in hell. That is where you belong.
Bye!

 

[mal]

Currently eight ships (now nine) from several nations including Turkey are doing just that. These ships, the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, have as their goal to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Israel has said that it will not allow this current flotilla to reach Gaza, and it will use military means if necessary to stop the ships.

Two key points are: 1) the Turkish ship will be flying the Turkish flag; and 2) Turkey is a member of NATO. What might happen if Israel were to attack a Turkish flagged vessel carrying humanitarian aid in international waters? The precedent has been established that an attack on one NATO member state will be viewed as an attack on NATO. How would NATO respond to an Israeli attack on a Turkish flagged vessel? Even if the Turkish ship were not flying its flag, how would the world respond to an attack on unarmed vessels carrying humanitarian aid in international waters?

Gaza Freedom Flotilla: Not Just another Middle East Crisis

So it's happened... And there will be huffing and puffing and UN Resolutions and in the End?...

Israel's Enemies will Continue to Agitate, Provoke and Attack while they Hide behind Women, Children, the Elderly and Ingorant Western "Peace" Activists who are really nothing more than Jew Haters.



peace...