France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

[toomuchtime_]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Ok good. We sell Saudi Arabia weapons. Saudi Arabia should attack Iran. This is an attack from one nation to another. If SA feels Iran did it, then SA should bomb the shit out of them. Had this happened to Israel they would be defending themselves. But SA looks to others to defend their nation for them.

Iran didn't attack us and didn't kill an American. Stay the fuck out of this shit.

 

[cnm]

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions

In which case it is deluded thinking to expect Iran to abide by the JPOA conditions.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Ok good. We sell Saudi Arabia weapons. Saudi Arabia should attack Iran. This is an attack from one nation to another. If SA feels Iran did it, then SA should bomb the shit out of them. Had this happened to Israel they would be defending themselves. But SA looks to others to defend their nation for them.

Iran didn't attack us and didn't kill an American. Stay the fuck out of this shit.

Such a war would send the price of oil skyrocketing and send the global economy into recession, and this condition would be long lasting. Only the US can prevent this from happening.

 

[RealDave]

Did they say the attacks originated in Iran?

 

[Dekster]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

If they don't carry out air strikes on their own without the US's help, then their proclamation isn't worth the pixels it is written with.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions

In which case it is deluded thinking to expect Iran to abide by the JPOA conditions.

Exactly, and Iran will have to submit to new conditions or be destroyed.

 

[wamose]

So how about you guys, France, Britain and Germany, exact retribution? Put up or shut up.

 

[toomuchtime_]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

If they don't carry out air strikes on their own without the US's help, then their proclamation isn't worth the pixels it is written with.

Actually, it is. It brings them one step closer to giving up on Iran abiding by JCPOA. If the EU and UN snap back their sanctions as JCPOA requires them to do, Iran will come to its knees faster.

 

[flewism]

The only thing known is that the Saudi Arabian elite don't have the mental fortitude for a war with Iran. France, Britain and Germany are going to talk.
If the United States does nothing, nobody else will.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So how about you guys, France, Britain and Germany, exact retribution? Put up or shut up.

lol The useless Europeans won't put up or shut up.

 

[Dekster]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

If they don't carry out air strikes on their own without the US's help, then their proclamation isn't worth the pixels it is written with.

Actually, it is. It brings them one step closer to giving up on Iran abiding by JCPOA. If the EU and UN snap back their sanctions as JCPOA requires them to do, Iran will come to its knees faster.

Iran is not "coming to its knees" period, but at least you seem to acknowledge the europeans aren't willing to carry out military operation either. This means if Iran wants a nuke, they will have a nuke.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The only thing known is that the Saudi Arabian elite don't have the mental fortitude for a war with Iran. France, Britain and Germany are going to talk.
If the United States does nothing, nobody else will.

The US is doing something, it is in the process of destroying Iran's economy. The goal here is to force Iran to give up all elements that might lead to nuclear weapons, and that includes all enrichment, and to abandon it imperialist ambitions. Iran will not yield easily and it would be a mistake to allow ourselves to be distracted from the main goal by Iran's aggressive gestures. If force is necessary, it should not be proportionate but destroy enough of Iran's infrastructure that it will not be able to afford to continue its nuclear weapons programs or support its terrorist militias across the ME.

 

[Dr Grump]

Didn't they also say there were WMDs in Iraq?

 

[elongobardi]

Yeah. No shit they did Of course that pos in Iran did it.


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[airplanemechanic]

Ok good. We sell Saudi Arabia weapons. Saudi Arabia should attack Iran. This is an attack from one nation to another. If SA feels Iran did it, then SA should bomb the shit out of them. Had this happened to Israel they would be defending themselves. But SA looks to others to defend their nation for them.

Iran didn't attack us and didn't kill an American. Stay the fuck out of this shit.

Such a war would send the price of oil skyrocketing and send the global economy into recession, and this condition would be long lasting. Only the US can prevent this from happening.

Really? We are the only country with planes and bombs and shit?

 

[toomuchtime_]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

If they don't carry out air strikes on their own without the US's help, then their proclamation isn't worth the pixels it is written with.

Actually, it is. It brings them one step closer to giving up on Iran abiding by JCPOA. If the EU and UN snap back their sanctions as JCPOA requires them to do, Iran will come to its knees faster.

Iran is not "coming to its knees" period, but at least you seem to acknowledge the europeans aren't willing to carry out military operation either. This means if Iran wants a nuke, they will have a nuke.

As its economy crumbles, Iran will have two choices, it can become another NK and watch tens of thousands of its citizens starve to death while it tries to build nukes, which will destabilize the government - remember what happened to the Shah - or it can yield, come to its knees, to the very strict conditions the US will impose on it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Ok good. We sell Saudi Arabia weapons. Saudi Arabia should attack Iran. This is an attack from one nation to another. If SA feels Iran did it, then SA should bomb the shit out of them. Had this happened to Israel they would be defending themselves. But SA looks to others to defend their nation for them.

Iran didn't attack us and didn't kill an American. Stay the fuck out of this shit.

Such a war would send the price of oil skyrocketing and send the global economy into recession, and this condition would be long lasting. Only the US can prevent this from happening.

Really? We are the only country with planes and bombs and shit?

Who else? Certainly not the Europeans.

 

[Dekster]

France, Britain and Germany said on Monday that it is clear Iran was responsible for an attack on Saudi oil facilities on September 14.

In a joint statement, the three governments also called on Tehran to agree to negotiations on its nuclear and missile programs as well as regional security issues.

“The time has come for Iran to accept a long term negotiation framework for its nuclear program, as well as regional security issues, which include its missile programs,” said the statement, quoted by Reuters.

French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met during the annual United Nations gathering of world leaders to coordinate their strategy on Iran as the European parties seek to save a 2015 nuclear deal and defuse tensions between Washington and Tehran.

“It is clear to us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” a statement by the three leaders said.

The three countries said they remained committed to the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, but demanded that Tehran return to full compliance after reneging on some of its commitments.

“We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East,” they said.

France, Britain and Germany blame Iran for Saudi Arabia attack

It's time for the Europeans to realize that there is nothing they do to save Iran from the US sanctions, and if they want to be at all relevant to these events, they will have to join the US in forcing Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and to give up its imperialist ambitions. The attack on the Saudi refinery was intended to frighten the Europeans into giving Iran all the money it is losing because of the sanctions. Will the Europeans continue to give Iran false hope of overcoming the sanctions, or will they start dealing with this situation honestly?

If they don't carry out air strikes on their own without the US's help, then their proclamation isn't worth the pixels it is written with.

Actually, it is. It brings them one step closer to giving up on Iran abiding by JCPOA. If the EU and UN snap back their sanctions as JCPOA requires them to do, Iran will come to its knees faster.

Iran is not "coming to its knees" period, but at least you seem to acknowledge the europeans aren't willing to carry out military operation either. This means if Iran wants a nuke, they will have a nuke.

As its economy crumbles, Iran will have two choices, it can become another NK and watch tens of thousands of its citizens starve to death while it tries to build nukes, which will destabilize the government - remember what happened to the Shah - or it can yield, come to its knees, to the very strict conditions the US will impose on it.

They can wait until the next Obama sens them a plane-load of money to make up for it.

 

[theHawk]

We could just drop a nuke on Iran and charge Saudi Arabia for it.