Four Embassies

[MAGAman]

It must be nice in that fantasy world of yours.

I live in a country with a great economy, excellent employment, and has just eliminated the 2 top terrorist masterminds in a short period of time. And my country likes it .

 

[LoneLaugher]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

One,
Four
100

If it were just one, the killing was more than justified.

Was it any? That's the question.

 

[LoneLaugher]

That's not at question here. At question is the legality of taking him out when and where he did and the REAL reason for it.

The president has said that four embassies were under imminent threat. That he ordered the strike to prevent four actual attacks.

That claim has not been corroborated by any member of Congress who's been in the briefings.

If you learned that the president lied to you about the reason he ordered the strike, would you be at all concerned?

National security doesn't always allow full transparency.

And nobody in that briefing said Salami was not a threat who was plotting to murder Americans.

So, if Salami was killed just to make the Iranian regime back off of killing Americans for some other reason I'd be ok with it.

The question for you:

Is there any reason that Trump could give for saving American lives that would be good enough for you?

It's amazing to see TDS make Democrats automatically support anyone Trump calls an enemy, even terrorists.

Did anyone complain when Al Bagdhadi was taken out?

Asshole.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What do you mean, they "set him up?" He's not organizing terrorist activities among those various groups? Saudi Arabia did it and said he did?

He was really comfortable going in there. Heck, he even took a commercial flight. He wasn't sneaking around. Supposedly he was there to discuss de-escalation between Iran and the Saudis. So that's what makes me think it's possible the Saudis were setting him up. Remember Rudolph Hess?

From wiki...

After Hitler became Chancellor in January 1933, Hess was appointed Deputy Führer of the NSDAP and in December 1933 received a post in Hitler's cabinet as a Minister without Portfolio. He was also appointed in 1938 to the Cabinet Council and in 1939 to the Council of Ministers for Defense of the Reich [de]. Hitler decreed in 1939 that Hermann Göring was his official successor, and named Hess as next in line. In addition to appearing on Hitler's behalf at speaking engagements and rallies, Hess signed into law much of the government's legislation, including the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, which stripped the Jews of Germany of their rights in the lead-up to the Holocaust.

On 10 May 1941, Hess made a solo flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks with the Duke of Hamilton, whom he believed to be a prominent opponent of the British government's war policy. The British authorities arrested Hess immediately on his arrival and held him in custody until the end of the war, when he was returned to Germany to stand trial in the Nuremberg Trials of major war-criminals in 1946. During much of the trial, he claimed to be suffering from amnesia, but he later admitted this was a ruse. The Court convicted him of crimes against peace and of conspiracy with other German leaders to commit crimes. He served a life sentence in Spandau Prison; the Soviet Union blocked repeated attempts by family members and prominent politicians to win his early release. While still in custody in Spandau, he died by hanging himself in 1987 at the age of 93. After his death, the prison was demolished to prevent it from becoming a neo-Nazi shrine.


If we wanna really go down the rabbit hole one might wonder if someone is trying to set up another one of those 9/11 type events on U.S. soil for the purpose of 'unification' again. Which would make me wonder what kind of power they're looking to snatch next time around.

Supposedly he was there to discuss de-escalation between Iran and the Saudis

Why would an Iranian terrorist need to go to Iraq to discuss de-escalation between Iran and the Saudis?

That makes even less sense than most of the silliness you usually post.

 

[MAGAman]

President Donald Trump told associates that he assassinated Iran's top military leader last week in part to appease Republican senators who will play a crucial role in his Senate impeachment trial, The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.

NC, this is obscene.

What's obscene is your partisan attempt to link things that aren't linked.

Grahmnesty was formally on the Armed Services committee and currently on the Foreign Relations committee.

It's not unheard of for Presidents to speak to Senators.

But I get the fact that you're Butthurt that Salami is dead and you need to spin it.

 

[MAGAman]

Supposedly he was there to discuss de-escalation between Iran and the Saudis

Why would an Iranian terrorist need to go to Iraq to discuss de-escalation between Iran and the Saudis?

That makes even less sense than most of the silliness you usually post.

Interesting theory.

Hey, maybe he was there to end child hunger.

 

[MAGAman]

Did anyone complain when Al Bagdhadi was taken out?

Asshole.

Not me.

What are you so pissy about?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

One,
Four
100

If it were just one, the killing was more than justified.

Was it any? That's the question.

Yes. Why else would he try to fly incognito on a passenger plane into Iraq? He is on the UN terror watch list. To me our intelligence knew something and after 9/11 it’s better to be safe than sorry. Clinton could have killed Bin Laddin but didn’t and look what it cost us. Inaction sometimes looks great in the short term but deadly and awful in the long term.

 

[Hellokitty]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

When you consider the democrats and liberal media were wishing for TRUMP's Benghazi moment, I don't find it hard to believe an Iranian military leader Soleimani who was respect by democrats and the liberal MSM was planning attacks on additional US embassies.

With the democrats giving Iran cover for shooting down the airliner, is there any reason to believe they wouldn't have done the same thing if Iran had attacked additional US embassies?

 

[Rocko]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

Orange man bad for killing Soleimani. Make peace not war. When I say Barack you say Hussein. Barack! Hussein! Barack! Hussein! Let’s get this party pumping right, John fucking Kerry style!

 

[OldLady]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

No.

‘Why did the United States kill Iranian general Qasem Soleimani? President Trump, in remarks to the nation the morning after the attack, gave a clear rationale. Soleimani “was planning new attacks on American targets, but we stopped him.”

That information has not been made public. But the glimpses behind the curtain have not inspired confidence that Trump’s story is on the level.

The most damning assessment is indirect. When the administration shared its intelligence with select members of Congress, many of them came away unimpressed, if not outright disgusted. Rep. Gerry Connolly described the presentation as “sophomoric and utterly unconvincing.” Even Republican Senator Mike Lee, heretofore an unquestioning Trump supporter, called it the worst briefing, at least on a military issue, he’s seen in the “nine years [he’s] been here.” This is the equivalent of a person who owns 14 house cats reporting that they walked out of the theater halfway through Cats.

Exactly what the administration said, or failed to say, remains classified. But the administration’s public explanations have hardly added clarity. Trump’s initial remarks did not mention any new threat to a U.S. embassy. The next day, he said, “We did it because they were looking to blow up our embassy,” presumably in Baghdad. Last night, at a rally in Toledo, he expanded the threat to “embassies,” multiple. In a new interview with Fox News, he has specified the threat as being to four embassies. Oddly, these details seem not to have been included in the briefing to Congress, which raises the question of why information is too classified for members of the U.S. government, but low-level enough to share with the Fox News audience.

A senior administration official and a senior defense official tell the Post they were “only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad and that the information did not suggest a fully formed plot.” Both sources denied any awareness of “threats against multiple embassies.”

Other ancillary details have made the case look more questionable still. Trump reportedly told associates he acted in part to placate Republican Senators whose support he needed to shape the Senate impeachment trial. The Washington Post reports today that, on the same day as the Soleimani strike, another American mission attempted, but failed, to take out a different Iranian commander in Yemen, where Iran is involved in a civil war. This seems like a strange coincidence if the second target was also linked to an imminent threat to the U.S. “This suggests a mission with a longer planning horizon and a larger objective, and it really does call into question why there was an attempt to explain this publicly on the basis of an imminent threat,” Iran scholar Suzanne Maloney told the Post.’

Trump’s Rationale for Killing Soleimani Is Falling Apart

Are you actually expecting me to believe that this Suleimani dude was not orchestrating terrorist attacks all over the world through those he considers "freedom fighters?" Of course he was. Two prior Presidents knew it too.
The fact that Trump didn't have details and according to another thread I read, was in part pressured by Republican senators to do it in the face of the impeachment trial coming up....
doesn't mean the guy was not terrifically bad news and a legitimate target.

 

[OldLady]

President Donald Trump told associates that he assassinated Iran's top military leader last week in part to appease Republican senators who will play a crucial role in his Senate impeachment trial, The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.

NC, this is obscene.

What's obscene is your partisan attempt to link things that aren't linked.

Grahmnesty was formally on the Armed Services committee and currently on the Foreign Relations committee.

It's not unheard of for Presidents to speak to Senators.

But I get the fact that you're Butthurt that Salami is dead and you need to spin it.

Assassinate the guy because it will help you politically?
You call that fine and dandy?
I'm not shedding any tears for Suleimani. I think it is SICK that he took a human life for THAT, though.

 

[skews13]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

No. There is zero evidence of it. If this was the case, why were the embassies not warned in advance.

Why was security not immediately beefed up at those sites?

Did just taking out the number one man of an alleged master mind attack not be carried out by the number two man?

Trump pulled that out of his ass like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

It's certainly possible, but just as possible it's bullshit.

It's unfortunate it took the election of Donald Trump to finally get the left to look upon the government with skepticism.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

Maybe... what I really don't believe is that Trump is taking the word of U.S. intelligence agencies that he has spent the last three years maligning as biased, corrupt, incompetent, and "running amok..."

It's not as if Trump knew what he was talking about - then or now. He says whatever suits him at the moment.

 

[progressive hunter]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

No. There is zero evidence of it. If this was the case, why were the embassies not warned in advance.

Why was security not immediately beefed up at those sites?

Did just taking out the number one man of an alleged master mind attack not be carried out by the number two man?

Trump pulled that out of his ass like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

how do you know all that didnt happen???

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Trumps integrity is non existent. One day he will tell the truth maybe.

 

[JLW]

Trump just pulled that out of his ass.

 

[skews13]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

No. There is zero evidence of it. If this was the case, why were the embassies not warned in advance.

Why was security not immediately beefed up at those sites?

Did just taking out the number one man of an alleged master mind attack not be carried out by the number two man?

Trump pulled that out of his ass like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

how do you know all that didnt happen???

Because no embassies were warned, and no obvious attempts to reenforce their security was taken, and no obvious attempts of attacking them has taken place, and Trump did just pull that out of his ass.

 

[progressive hunter]

Does anyone here believe that Soleimani and the Quds forces were actively planning to attack four US embassies when he was taken out?

No. There is zero evidence of it. If this was the case, why were the embassies not warned in advance.

Why was security not immediately beefed up at those sites?

Did just taking out the number one man of an alleged master mind attack not be carried out by the number two man?

Trump pulled that out of his ass like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

how do you know all that didnt happen???

Because no embassies were warned, and no obvious attempts to reenforce their security was taken, and no obvious attempts of attacking them has taken place, and Trump did just pull that out of his ass.

got a link to back that up???