Former NASA director: Possible abrupt cooling!!!

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More bad news for the AGW alarmist nutters........

Who else is speculating about abrupt cooling? One name which might surprise you is former NASA GISS director James Hansen. From Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 ◦C global warming could be dangerous p3774;




Evidently sons.....its not about planet temperature at all.........it far more about global energy inbalances, which scientists still don't know dick about...........

North Atlantic ocean circulation and abrupt climate change during the last glaciation | Science


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You see people..........the alarmists go with this established narrative that warming is set in stone. Its not.......not by a long shot. They say the science is established. Its not even pseudo-established.:oops-28: They don't know whats coming next as many prominent scientists have been telling us for years ( the ones not associated with the AGW green industry :boobies: )
 
More bad news for the AGW alarmist nutters........

Who else is speculating about abrupt cooling? One name which might surprise you is former NASA GISS director James Hansen. From Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 ◦C global warming could be dangerous p3774;




Evidently sons.....its not about planet temperature at all.........it far more about global energy inbalances, which scientists still don't know dick about...........

North Atlantic ocean circulation and abrupt climate change during the last glaciation | Science



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Here's the deal.

There's NATURAL warming and cooling and there's MAN MADE warming.

The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what? Well it depends on how much of each. The problem isn't the cooling, the problem is the natural warming after the natural cooling,
 
Mans influence is less than 1/5 of the the lowest estimate from the IPCC and other alarmist camps... that amount is so minuscule that natural counters wipe it out without even breathing hard... (were talking 3-5 hundredths of a degree)

Hansen just revealed his cards by hedging his bets and showing that cooling is what most likely is coming very fast..

The man FLIPPED and FLOPPED in an effort to keep his funding alive along with the AGW narrative... The Gig is up and he is exposed as are all of his followers..
 
More bad news for the AGW alarmist nutters........

Who else is speculating about abrupt cooling? One name which might surprise you is former NASA GISS director James Hansen. From Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 ◦C global warming could be dangerous p3774;




Evidently sons.....its not about planet temperature at all.........it far more about global energy inbalances, which scientists still don't know dick about...........

North Atlantic ocean circulation and abrupt climate change during the last glaciation | Science



Here's the deal.

There's NATURAL warming and cooling and there's MAN MADE warming.

The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what? Well it depends on how much of each. The problem isn't the cooling, the problem is the natural warming after the natural cooling,


Theory aint science s0n........problem is. nobody knows dick about whats coming in 10 years, 50 years or 1,000. My guess is as good as any of these PHd knuckleheads. Still got lots and lots to learn before this is "science". Its still a hobby.:2up:
 
From the article..............

"Large scale regional cooling occurs in the North Atlantic and Southern oceans by mid-century (Fig. 16) for 10-year doubling of freshwater injection. A 20-year doubling places similar cooling near the end of this century, 40 years ear- lier than in our prior simulations (Fig. 7), as the factor of 4 increase in current freshwater from Antarctica is a 40-year advance."


And who knows if these guys are correct??

When there is consensus, I'll pay attention. Right now, there is just reality consensus which is a social measure = ghey :gay:
 
More bad news for the AGW alarmist nutters........

Who else is speculating about abrupt cooling? One name which might surprise you is former NASA GISS director James Hansen. From Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms: evidence from paleoclimate data, climate modeling, and modern observations that 2 ◦C global warming could be dangerous p3774;




Evidently sons.....its not about planet temperature at all.........it far more about global energy inbalances, which scientists still don't know dick about...........

North Atlantic ocean circulation and abrupt climate change during the last glaciation | Science



Here's the deal.

There's NATURAL warming and cooling and there's MAN MADE warming.

The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what? Well it depends on how much of each. The problem isn't the cooling, the problem is the natural warming after the natural cooling,


Theory aint science s0n........problem is. nobody knows dick about whats coming in 10 years, 50 years or 1,000. My guess is as good as any of these PHd knuckleheads. Still got lots and lots to learn before this is "science". Its still a hobby.:2up:

No, nobody knows what's coming. However their guess is probably much better than yours. And they're probably far more likely to see an oncoming disaster than you, and far more likely to see it earlier than you, and far less likely to ignore it than you.
 
The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what?

Absolutely nothing. We are inconsequential when it come to the effects of the sun on the earth. So are volcanoes, wildfires, and cow farts.

Well that depends on what the sun does.

However the point is this. If the Sun goes through normal cycles, then Humans have basically been able to survive within these parameters for long enough to develop to this point. With man-made global warming on top of natural warming, we could potentially push this over the edge. Now, a period of global cooling doesn't mean much if we take it that we can do more damage to the planet, because when it comes back around again, and it will, we're going to push it over the edge.
 
The sun has just 'gone blank' and there could be an ice age coming

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There is no edge. The earth warms, the earth cools.
The whole global warming scam is a ruse to redistribute our wealth.
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The earth heats, the earth cools accordingly. That information has just been banned, so that our children will never know the whole climate change joke is on them.
You need to free yourself from believing that this has anything to do with climate, and realize that it has everything to do with redistributing wealth we get by borrowing it from China, to gift to the UN.
 
There is no edge. The earth warms, the earth cools.
The whole global warming scam is a ruse to redistribute our wealth.
solar_max_min.jpg


The earth heats, the earth cools accordingly. That information has just been banned, so that our children will never know the whole climate change joke is on them.
You need to free yourself from believing that this has anything to do with climate, and realize that it has everything to do with redistributing wealth we get by borrowing it from China, to gift to the UN.


Spot on.......plain as the nose on the faces of these AGW knotheads!!
 
The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what?

Absolutely nothing. We are inconsequential when it come to the effects of the sun on the earth. So are volcanoes, wildfires, and cow farts.

Well that depends on what the sun does.

However the point is this. If the Sun goes through normal cycles, then Humans have basically been able to survive within these parameters for long enough to develop to this point. With man-made global warming on top of natural warming, we could potentially push this over the edge. Now, a period of global cooling doesn't mean much if we take it that we can do more damage to the planet, because when it comes back around again, and it will, we're going to push it over the edge.

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Above is the 450 thousand years before present. We spend most of our time 4-6 deg C lower than today's temps. The sun goes through these low cycles and cause the ice ages.. Note the rapid declines, happening in 10-30 years... Generally preceded by a peak lasting 20-30 years...

Guess what just happened the last 30 years..
 
The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what?

Absolutely nothing. We are inconsequential when it come to the effects of the sun on the earth. So are volcanoes, wildfires, and cow farts.

Well that depends on what the sun does.

However the point is this. If the Sun goes through normal cycles, then Humans have basically been able to survive within these parameters for long enough to develop to this point. With man-made global warming on top of natural warming, we could potentially push this over the edge. Now, a period of global cooling doesn't mean much if we take it that we can do more damage to the planet, because when it comes back around again, and it will, we're going to push it over the edge.

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Above is the 450 thousand years before present. We spend most of our time 4-6 deg C lower than today's temps. The sun goes through these low cycles and cause the ice ages.. Note the rapid declines, happening in 10-30 years... Generally preceded by a peak lasting 20-30 years...

Guess what just happened the last 30 years..
Leading theory as to why ice ages come and go is earth wobble. Guess what's missing from every climate model....
 
The sun spots have stopped, quite a few times, this is the sort of thing that leads to a NATURAL cooling. Now, Natural cooling + MAN MADE warming does what?

Absolutely nothing. We are inconsequential when it come to the effects of the sun on the earth. So are volcanoes, wildfires, and cow farts.

Well that depends on what the sun does.

However the point is this. If the Sun goes through normal cycles, then Humans have basically been able to survive within these parameters for long enough to develop to this point. With man-made global warming on top of natural warming, we could potentially push this over the edge. Now, a period of global cooling doesn't mean much if we take it that we can do more damage to the planet, because when it comes back around again, and it will, we're going to push it over the edge.

View attachment 80372

Above is the 450 thousand years before present. We spend most of our time 4-6 deg C lower than today's temps. The sun goes through these low cycles and cause the ice ages.. Note the rapid declines, happening in 10-30 years... Generally preceded by a peak lasting 20-30 years...

Guess what just happened the last 30 years..
Leading theory as to why ice ages come and go is earth wobble. Guess what's missing from every climate model....
glue, to make it stay in place..
 

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