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Actually, under current law, seniors who don't sign up for Medicare can be denied their Social Security benefits.
Right, that's what I meant. But none-the-less, it's all voluntary. Ryan's fix/attack or whatever you want to call it doesn't change the fact that Medicare is voluntary.
I don't think the payroll tax is voluntary. Is Ryan getting rid of the payroll tax? Is he giving seniors a voucher whether they paid in or not?
And a voucher is a voucher. It's not cash. It's a coupon.
Right, that's what I meant. But none-the-less, it's all voluntary. Ryan's fix/attack or whatever you want to call it doesn't change the fact that Medicare is voluntary.
Medicare is currently NOT VOLUNTARY unless you wish to give up your Social Security benefits.
Yup, voluntary.
Ok then what happens to the people who opt out?
What does a emergency dr do when a patient is brought in without any knowledge of wether the person opted out or not?
Medicare is currently NOT VOLUNTARY unless you wish to give up your Social Security benefits.
Yup, voluntary.
You really are an idiot. One if PUNISHED with revocation of Social Security benefits if one doens't participate. Being forced to do things under compulsion or threat is not voluntary.
You don't have to accept medicare benefits if you don't want to. Granted you still have to pay into it, which is bullshit, but you don't have to use the program.
Yup, voluntary.
You really are an idiot. One if PUNISHED with revocation of Social Security benefits if one doens't participate. Being forced to do things under compulsion or threat is not voluntary.
Losing social security is only a threat if you have done absolutely nothing to plan for your retirement. That being the case, it's your fault you put yourself in that horrible position so you'll get no sympathy from me.
Ok then what happens to the people who opt out?
What does a emergency dr do when a patient is brought in without any knowledge of wether the person opted out or not?
They go to a charity hospital.
Under your preferred system: what happens when there are not enough providers to care for patients?
You don't have to accept medicare benefits if you don't want to. Granted you still have to pay into it, which is bullshit, but you don't have to use the program.
LOL.. ok, but that's a completely specious point to make. By that logic, the individual mandate is voluntary. You don't have to use it, you just have to pay for it.
You really are an idiot. One if PUNISHED with revocation of Social Security benefits if one doens't participate. Being forced to do things under compulsion or threat is not voluntary.
Losing social security is only a threat if you have done absolutely nothing to plan for your retirement. That being the case, it's your fault you put yourself in that horrible position so you'll get no sympathy from me.
That is an absolute crock of shit.
But thanks for providing this insight into your worldview.
Losing social security is only a threat if you have done absolutely nothing to plan for your retirement. That being the case, it's your fault you put yourself in that horrible position so you'll get no sympathy from me.
That is an absolute crock of shit.
But thanks for providing this insight into your worldview.
People can't plan for their own retirement and eschew the government's programs?
How do you get healthcare to all it the real question.
Ummm...what part of "you can if you want to" is forcing them?Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
How do you get healthcare to all it the real question.
They'll realize they should have thought ahead.So if a person takes their voucher and spends it instead of buying insurance what happens wehn they are rushed to the hospital and taken to the emergency room?
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...