NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
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Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Because it doesn't. It provides a voucher for senior to use to purchase their own health insurance, if they so choose.
It doesn't fine them if they opt out.
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program. The government has the choice stacked against you (if you begin collecting social security benefits then you're automatically enrolled in medicare), but in the end it's still voluntary.
Because it doesn't. It provides a voucher for senior to use to purchase their own health insurance, if they so choose.
It doesn't fine them if they opt out.
It converts their previous medicare payments into vouchers that can only be used for insurance. They can "opt out" but then they lose their benefits altogether. It's hard to miss the similarity between this and Obamacare as each as has the same intent - to push as many people as possible into the private insurance pool, at taxpayer expense. More corporate welfare.
Because it doesn't. It provides a voucher for senior to use to purchase their own health insurance, if they so choose.
It doesn't fine them if they opt out.
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program.
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program. The government has the choice stacked against you (if you begin collecting social security benefits then you're automatically enrolled in medicare), but in the end it's still voluntary.
Actually, under current law, seniors who don't sign up for Medicare can be denied their Social Security benefits.
Because it doesn't. It provides a voucher for senior to use to purchase their own health insurance, if they so choose.
It doesn't fine them if they opt out.
It converts their previous medicare payments into vouchers that can only be used for insurance. They can "opt out" but then they lose their benefits altogether. It's hard to miss the similarity between this and Obamacare as each as has the same intent - to push as many people as possible into the private insurance pool, at taxpayer expense. More corporate welfare.
I'd like to see the voucher turned into something they can use to purchase health care directly owithout having to buy insurance or saved in a health savings account for the future if they so choose.
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program. The government has the choice stacked against you (if you begin collecting social security benefits then you're automatically enrolled in medicare), but in the end it's still voluntary.
Actually, under current law, seniors who don't sign up for Medicare can be denied their Social Security benefits.
Right, that's what I meant. But none-the-less, it's all voluntary. Ryan's fix/attack or whatever you want to call it doesn't change the fact that Medicare is voluntary.
I'd like to see the voucher turned into something they can use to purchase health care directly owithout having to buy insurance or saved in a health savings account for the future if they so choose.
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program.
I'm pretty sure that's not right. Paying into Medicare is not voluntary.
I'd like to see the voucher turned into something they can use to purchase health care directly owithout having to buy insurance or saved in a health savings account for the future if they so choose.
Me too. But the fact that such an obvious thing isn't even discussed is proof of Ryan's hypocrisy.
Since when are seniors forced to use medicare at all? It's a voluntary program. The government has the choice stacked against you (if you begin collecting social security benefits then you're automatically enrolled in medicare), but in the end it's still voluntary.
Actually, under current law, seniors who don't sign up for Medicare can be denied their Social Security benefits.
Right, that's what I meant. But none-the-less, it's all voluntary. Ryan's fix/attack or whatever you want to call it doesn't change the fact that Medicare is voluntary.
Why aren't you saying that about Ryan's kill-Medicare plan?
Which forces seniors to buy private insurance...
Actually, under current law, seniors who don't sign up for Medicare can be denied their Social Security benefits.
Right, that's what I meant. But none-the-less, it's all voluntary. Ryan's fix/attack or whatever you want to call it doesn't change the fact that Medicare is voluntary.
Medicare is currently NOT VOLUNTARY unless you wish to give up your Social Security benefits.