For every single American this Memorial Day weekend...

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While we're having fun this weekend, there isn't a minute that should go by without all of us keeping in mind and honoring the men and women in uniform who sacrificed their lives to protect our freedom. No matter what missions they were under orders to follow, they were there for us and we must never forget that.


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Most government offices and some private businesses will be closed on Memorial Day, which falls on Monday, May 27 this year.

Banks, mail, the stock market and schools are either closed or not in service.

The federal holiday was created to honor soldiers who have died in military service and is observed annually on the last Monday of May. It was recognized as a national holiday by an act of Congress in 1971.

Memorial Day traces its roots to "Decoration Day" — a 19th century U.S. tradition where the graves of Civil War soldiers were decorated at the end of May.

Memorial Day 2019 travel: Almost record-breaking number of people expected to travel for Memorial Day

Here's a look at what will be open and closed Monday:
Memorial Day 2019: Here's what's open and closed on the Monday, May 27 holiday
 
While we're having fun this weekend, there isn't a minute that should go by without all of us keeping in mind and honoring the men and women in uniform who sacrificed their lives to protect our freedom. No matter what missions they were under orders to follow, they were there for us and we must never forget that.

pat-tillman-arizona-state-tunnel.jpg


Most government offices and some private businesses will be closed on Memorial Day, which falls on Monday, May 27 this year.

Banks, mail, the stock market and schools are either closed or not in service.

The federal holiday was created to honor soldiers who have died in military service and is observed annually on the last Monday of May. It was recognized as a national holiday by an act of Congress in 1971.

Memorial Day traces its roots to "Decoration Day" — a 19th century U.S. tradition where the graves of Civil War soldiers were decorated at the end of May.

Memorial Day 2019 travel: Almost record-breaking number of people expected to travel for Memorial Day

Here's a look at what will be open and closed Monday:
Memorial Day 2019: Here's what's open and closed on the Monday, May 27 holiday
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"Pat Tillman, who gave up a lucrative NFL career to join the Army after 9/11, was a true patriot: he wanted to defend America, not conduct social engineering overseas. That led him to oppose the Iraq war."
Pat Tillman Saw the Iraq War as Folly

This Memorial Day should also remind Americans how their government lies about who profits and who pays the cost of patriotism and "social engineering overseas."
 
Okay I admit it., when I posted this I had looked at the calendar wrong and thought this was
Memorial Day weekend. And thanks for everyone's politeness in not spanking me for it..
Maybe I can repost it next weekend and start over.
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Angelo To err is human... Your heart was in the right place...

THIS WAS REAL!

This is what 18-year-old "kids" were doing in 1944.

No safe spaces, no hurtful unthinkable remarks that they couldn't cope with, just dying for their country so the ungrateful, uninformed of today could act like fools decades later.

This 2-minute video is pretty moving. Worth your while. "What actually made this country great is ordinary guys like this doing extraordinary things."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jpt6Bvr2L-s?rel=0&controls=0&showinf
 
What would Pat Tillman have to say about Memorial Day 2019?
His brother Kevin provides this voice:
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"Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004"

After Pat's Birthday

"It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.

"He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.

"How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out...."

"Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.

"Something like that..."

"Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes..."

"Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground..."

"Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country...."

"In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.

"So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.

"Most likely, they will come to know that 'somehow' was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites."
 
Angelo To err is human... Your heart was in the right place...

THIS WAS REAL!

This is what 18-year-old "kids" were doing in 1944.

No safe spaces, no hurtful unthinkable remarks that they couldn't cope with, just dying for their country so the ungrateful, uninformed of today could act like fools decades later.

This 2-minute video is pretty moving. Worth your while. "What actually made this country great is ordinary guys like this doing extraordinary things."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jpt6Bvr2L-s?rel=0&controls=0&showinf
 
Angelo To err is human... Your heart was in the right place...

THIS WAS REAL!

This is what 18-year-old "kids" were doing in 1944.

No safe spaces, no hurtful unthinkable remarks that they couldn't cope with, just dying for their country so the ungrateful, uninformed of today could act like fools decades later.

This 2-minute video is pretty moving. Worth your while. "What actually made this country great is ordinary guys like this doing extraordinary things."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jpt6Bvr2L-s?rel=0&controls=0&showinf

Thanks for posting that....we must never forget.

Admiral Nimitz summed it up....."a time where uncommon courage was a common virtue"

Think what America could do today if we were as united as we were back then.

Times have changed and the World has turned around many a time since then but it is not too late for us to get back on the right track.
 
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What would Pat Tillman have to say about Memorial Day 2019?
His brother Kevin provides this voice:
kevin_pat_350-4.jpg

"Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004"

After Pat's Birthday

"It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.

"He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.

"How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out...."

"Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.

"Something like that..."

"Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes..."

"Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground..."

"Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country...."

"In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.

"So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.

"Most likely, they will come to know that 'somehow' was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites."

I didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.

I do agree that Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq...but congress approved.

Beyond that I will not comment...he served, he lost a brother...he is to be honored.
 
I can only wish that today we had a congress with just a smidgen of the patriotism our fathers, grandfathers and perhaps for some on here great-grandfathers displayed during WWII.

I speak of course primarily of the democrats....not only are there very few of them that have any patriotism......many of them are displaying behavior typical of traitors...I do not say that lightly.
 
What would Pat Tillman have to say about Memorial Day 2019?
His brother Kevin provides this voice:
kevin_pat_350-4.jpg

"Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004"

After Pat's Birthday

"It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.

"He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.

"How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out...."

"Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.

"Something like that..."

"Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes..."

"Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground..."

"Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country...."

"In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.

"So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.

"Most likely, they will come to know that 'somehow' was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites."

I didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.

I do agree that Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq...but congress approved.

Beyond that I will not comment...he served, he lost a brother...he is to be honored.
didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.
Pat and Kevin both sacrificed promising professional sports careers in order to serve. Imho, there hasn't been any good reason for any US wars since 1945. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq seem like gigantic waste of resources, human, material, and spiritual.
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‘The US is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today’: MLK, Jr. 1967
 
Bootlicking requires no discernment.
I disagree..some discernment is required in divining whether or not the boot kicks you in the mouth. Those who scorn the sacrifice of patriots deserve our pity and our scorn---for they do not grasp that their free speech..their very right to heap opprobrium upon those who served--was purchased for them in blood.

No matter that the politicians get it wrong..no matter that the action they died in was right or wrong--their sacrifice stands above the fray..pristine and untouched by those of lesser character.
 
What would Pat Tillman have to say about Memorial Day 2019?
His brother Kevin provides this voice:
kevin_pat_350-4.jpg

"Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004"

After Pat's Birthday

"It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.

"He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.

"How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out...."

"Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.

"Something like that..."

"Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes..."

"Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground..."

"Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country...."

"In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.

"So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.

"Most likely, they will come to know that 'somehow' was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites."

I didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.

I do agree that Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq...but congress approved.

Beyond that I will not comment...he served, he lost a brother...he is to be honored.
didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.
Pat and Kevin both sacrificed promising professional sports careers in order to serve. Imho, there hasn't been any good reason for any US wars since 1945. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq seem like gigantic waste of resources, human, material, and spiritual.
mlk-spiritual-death.png

‘The US is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today’: MLK, Jr. 1967

You dare quote MLK....unbelievable
 
We were absolutely correct to go into afghaniland....since Bin Laden was holed up there....we gave the Taliban an ultimatum...give us Bin Laden or else....they refused thus they deserve what they got.

I think going into Korea was a necessity....unfortunately Truman allowed China to come in without allowing our boys to attack China.

MacArthur was right and Truman wrong.

Vietnam I think could have been avoided...a lot of bad dipolmacy there going back to the end of WWII.

When Gen. Douglas MacArthur Put the Hurt on North Korea
 
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What would Pat Tillman have to say about Memorial Day 2019?
His brother Kevin provides this voice:
kevin_pat_350-4.jpg

"Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004"

After Pat's Birthday

"It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military.

"He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people.

"How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out...."

"Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is.

"Something like that..."

"Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes..."

"Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground..."

"Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country...."

"In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people.

"So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity.

"Most likely, they will come to know that 'somehow' was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites."

I didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.

I do agree that Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq...but congress approved.

Beyond that I will not comment...he served, he lost a brother...he is to be honored.
didn't know Pat Tilman joined with a brother...they look enough alike they could be twins.
Pat and Kevin both sacrificed promising professional sports careers in order to serve. Imho, there hasn't been any good reason for any US wars since 1945. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq seem like gigantic waste of resources, human, material, and spiritual.
mlk-spiritual-death.png

‘The US is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today’: MLK, Jr. 1967

You dare quote MLK....unbelievable
You dare quote MLK....unbelievabl
King obviously saw the murderous, racist underpinnings of US foreign/domestic policies much more clearly than you do:

restoring socialist visionary radical martin luther king

"And again he blamed in part the ‘Imperialist murderous war in Viet Nam, and 'the cruel irony of watching Negro and white boys on TV screens as they kill and die together for a nation that has been unable to seat them together in the same school. We watch them in brutal solidarity burning the huts of a poor village, but we realize that they would never live on the same block in Detroit,' adding that he 'could not be silent in the face of such cruel manipulation of the poor'".
 
We were absolutely correct to go into afghaniland....since Bin Laden was holed up there....we gave the Taliban an ultimatum...give us Bin Laden or else....they refused thus they deserve what they got.

I think going into Korea was a necessity....unfortunately Truman allowed China to come in without allowing our boys to attack China.

MacArthur was right and Truman wrong.

Vietnam I think could have been avoided...a lot of bad dipolmacy there going back to the end of WWII.

When Gen. Douglas MacArthur Put the Hurt on North Korea
I think going into Korea was a necessity....unfortunately Truman allowed China to come in without allowing our boys to attack China.

MacArthur was right and Truman wrong.
The US "lost" Korea five years before MacArthur wanted to use nuclear weapons on that peninsula:

DECEMBER 31, 2002
A Pop Quiz on Korea
by GARY LEUPP

"6. In August 1945 defeated Japanese forces formally turned over authority in Korea to the broad-based Committee for the Preparation of Korean Independence, led by Lyuh Woon-hyung, which in September proclaimed the Korean People’s Republic (KPR). When U.S. forces under Gen. Reed Hodge arrived in Inchon to accept the Japanese surrender, they

"a. ordered all Japanese officials to remain in their posts, refused to recognize Lyuh as national leader, and soon banned all public reference to the KPR

"b. recognized Lyuh as the legitimate head of state

"c. negotiated with Lyuh to facilitate swift attainment of independence of a united Korea."
 
While we're having fun this weekend, there isn't a minute that should go by without all of us keeping in mind and honoring the men and women in uniform who sacrificed their lives to protect our freedom. No matter what missions they were under orders to follow, they were there for us and we must never forget that.

pat-tillman-arizona-state-tunnel.jpg


Most government offices and some private businesses will be closed on Memorial Day, which falls on Monday, May 27 this year.

Banks, mail, the stock market and schools are either closed or not in service.

The federal holiday was created to honor soldiers who have died in military service and is observed annually on the last Monday of May. It was recognized as a national holiday by an act of Congress in 1971.

Memorial Day traces its roots to "Decoration Day" — a 19th century U.S. tradition where the graves of Civil War soldiers were decorated at the end of May.

Memorial Day 2019 travel: Almost record-breaking number of people expected to travel for Memorial Day

Here's a look at what will be open and closed Monday:
Memorial Day 2019: Here's what's open and closed on the Monday, May 27 holiday


When doesn't memorial day not fall on a Monday?
 

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