For all those "blind" defenders of the Israeli governments

[nat4900]

Far from an accusation of the Israeli people, the problem has often been that.....because of the very effective fear-mongering and the "we're the victim" mindset of their elected governments.....Israelis now find themselves almost alone (except for the US) in the world stage.....What should also be remembered is that Israel holds the most sanctions issued by the United Nation, and only the veto power of the U.S. has thwarted even more serious condemnations.

The question for those (mostly right wingers) who BLINDLY defend Israeli policies (of course the Obama hatred adds to their blind defense) is this:

Why did Israel, for decades, acted as the sole "supporter" of apartheid South Africa???

After all, as late as 1987 Israel was the only 'Western-aligned' nation that kept diplomatic ties with apartheid South Africa and was the last country to join the international boycott campaign before the collapse of the oppressive South African government.

 

[Porker]

Israel in the ONLY friend we have in that part of the world. Fuck You very much.

 

[eagle1462010]

Our fathers fought against the Tyranny and mass murder of Jews...............

The Arab Nations and the Grand Muftie assisted in Extermination of ethnic minorities in current Bosnia..............

When the Germans were beaten..............that ended their BS..............for the Radical Islamist it just began.

Our fathers and those that fought this War gave those that survived the holocaust a small slither of land to call home................and the persecution never ended.................

3 Wars.............The Arab armies lost every time..............

Continued terror attacks.................and they never end................

Upon the creation of Israel..........................

NEVER AGAIN.......................and so it stands today..............

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Porker]

Our fathers fought against the Tyranny and mass murder of Jews...............

The Arab Nations and the Grand Muftie assisted in Extermination of ethnic minorities in current Bosnia..............

When the Germans were beaten..............that ended their BS..............for the Radical Islamist it just began.

Our fathers and those that fought this War gave those that survived the holocaust a small slither of land to call home................and the persecution never ended.................

3 Wars.............The Arab armies lost every time..............

Continued terror attacks.................and they never end................

Upon the creation of Israel..........................

NEVER AGAIN.......................and so it stands today..............

Grandfathers and Great Grandfathers...but this generation is completely unappreciative of the that fact...fuck you assholes.

 

[deltex1]

Veni, vidi, vici. Any questions?

 

[nat4900]

Israel in the ONLY friend we have in that part of the world. Fuck You very much.

Sometimes "friends" do some things that are not that friendly.....But I did say something in the thread's title about being blind.......BTW, how is your guide dog?

 

[DarkFury]

Screw Obama and screw Islam.

Nuke Iran and nuke Islamic State. They have more then EARNED the BIG party poppers. The Japanese NEVER pulled ALL the crap they have. Iran wants a nuke? Give them one.

 

[nat4900]

Not the first nor the last time that the former "victim" becomes the victimizer.

Nonetheless, right wingers on here, spurred on by Obama hatred will blindly defend even the indefensible apartheid practices of some of the Israeli current and past government leaders.

 

[nat4900]

Nuke Iran and nuke Islamic State. They have more then EARNED the BIG party poppers. The Japanese NEVER pulled ALL the crap they have. Iran wants a nuke? Give them one.

You sound like a charming (albeit, neurotic) dingbat.....

 

[nat4900]

The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

The synopsis of a much longer article (below) was written by Jews who felt compelled to expose the Zionist agenda that has caused so much bloodshed in the former Palestine.

The standard Zionist position is that they showed up in Palestine in the late 19th century to reclaim their ancestral homeland. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.

The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.

But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem.

 

[eagle1462010]

My father and Father n Law fought in the Pacific...............God rest their souls...............

Our country has turned into a bunch of pussies..............like Gnat here.

 

[defcon4]

Our country has turned into a bunch of pussies..............like Gnat here.

Somebody already recommended that you fly to Israel (maybe on another similar thread) Quit whining and do what "MEN" do and leave us "bunch of pussies" here to fend for ourselves. Deal? BTW, thank you for being here to protect us now, you can move to Israel to fight we will take it from here.

 

[eagle1462010]

Our country has turned into a bunch of pussies..............like Gnat here.

Somebody already recommended that you fly to Israel (maybe on another similar thread) Quit whining and do what "MEN" do and leave us "bunch of pussies" here to fend for ourselves. Deal? BTW, thank you for being here to protect us now, you can move to Israel to fight we will take it from here.

 

[nat4900]

These right wing "lovers of freedom" with flags tattooed on their arses, can't accept any criticism of Israel......WHY?.....Well, its not love of Israel (most of them couldn't find that country on a map).......but because they hate anything that challenges whatever they hear on FOX.

 

[eagle1462010]

These right wing "lovers of freedom" with flags tattooed on their arses, can't accept any criticism of Israel......WHY?.....Well, its not love of Israel (most of them couldn't find that country on a map).......but because they hate anything that challenges whatever they hear on FOX.

Straw man......I've served on that side of the world.

How about you....................

 

[deltex1]

Our country has turned into a bunch of pussies..............like Gnat here.

Somebody already recommended that you fly to Israel (maybe on another similar thread) Quit whining and do what "MEN" do and leave us "bunch of pussies" here to fend for ourselves. Deal? BTW, thank you for being here to protect us now, you can move to Israel to fight we will take it from here.

If you had any balls you would be Defcon 1.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Our fathers fought against the Tyranny and mass murder of Jews...............

The Arab Nations and the Grand Muftie assisted in Extermination of ethnic minorities in current Bosnia..............

When the Germans were beaten..............that ended their BS..............for the Radical Islamist it just began.

Our fathers and those that fought this War gave those that survived the holocaust a small slither of land to call home................and the persecution never ended.................

3 Wars.............The Arab armies lost every time..............

Continued terror attacks.................and they never end................

Upon the creation of Israel..........................

NEVER AGAIN.......................and so it stands today..............

Fukin' A...........









You got anything more than smarmy, sentimental rhetoric?

 

[eagle1462010]

Our fathers fought against the Tyranny and mass murder of Jews...............

The Arab Nations and the Grand Muftie assisted in Extermination of ethnic minorities in current Bosnia..............

When the Germans were beaten..............that ended their BS..............for the Radical Islamist it just began.

Our fathers and those that fought this War gave those that survived the holocaust a small slither of land to call home................and the persecution never ended.................

3 Wars.............The Arab armies lost every time..............

Continued terror attacks.................and they never end................

Upon the creation of Israel..........................

NEVER AGAIN.......................and so it stands today..............

Fukin' A...........









You got anything more than smarmy, sentimental rhetoric?

What is it you are looking for................Nice song BTW............

I'm here to slam Gnat..............he and others would probably cheer if Israel was destroyed.........

On another thread some are openly saying they are for the extermination of Israel............

I'm telling them to Fuck Off there also.............It's just what I do..............

 

[Hutch Starskey]

These right wing "lovers of freedom" with flags tattooed on their arses, can't accept any criticism of Israel......WHY?.....Well, its not love of Israel (most of them couldn't find that country on a map).......but because they hate anything that challenges whatever they hear on FOX.

I believe it's nothing more than it's the holy land. Since the time of the crusades, the control of the holy land has been an obsession. How better to hedge your bets during the Armageddon than to control the field of battle.