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    The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot
    The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
    In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the "Hanoi Hilton."

    Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

    He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away.
    During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

    In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
    double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

    From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action".
    His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
    His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

    They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand

    When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"

    Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
    She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper.
    Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
    Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.


    I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

    I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.

    My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
    At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
    (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

    We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

    When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
    the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her.

    I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

    Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane

    I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
    She never did answer me.

    These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women."
    Lest we forget.." 100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

    There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
    Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.

    It will eventually end up on her computer and
    she needs to know that we will never forget.

    RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
    716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
     
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    Well, that's one way to get my blood stirring first thing in the morning! This and the post expressing someone's disgust about a Marine cadence call. I cannot help but ownder if Hanoi Jane and that poster are one and the same.
     
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    Claim: Jane Fonda betrayed U.S. POWs during the Viet Nam War.

    Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.

    http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

    "The whole [e-mail] story about Jane Fonda is just malarkey," said Edison Miller, 73, of California, a former Marine Corps pilot held more than five years. Miller was among seven POWs who met with Fonda in Hanoi. He said he didn't recall her asking any questions other than about their names, if that. He said that he passed her no piece of paper, and that to his knowledge, no other POW in the group did, despite the e-mail's claims.
    In fact, Fonda carried home letters from many American POWs to their families upon her return from North Vietnam.
     
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    Yeah, anyone that was around then knew that was false anyway. What sets me off about Fonda is the same thing that sets me off about Kerry...it's called giving aid and comfort to the enemy. You probably dont understand that concept.
     
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    Why? It is a very easy concept to understand.
     
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    Good. Now you know why Fonda/Kerry and others of their ilk bug the heck out of me!
     
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    I heard that, while she's still a big liberal, she's apologized for her treatment of American troops during Vietnam.
     
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    She has since retracted her apology...last year when she was trying to sell her book.
     
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    I'm a bit confused... did this CMSgt join the military AFTER his release?

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