Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business

[JoeB131]

Hmmm, really high tariffs. Great idea. Let's condemn third world people to staying in abject poverty because we refuse to buy what they make. Liberal humanitarianism at its finest.

Why should I give a fuck about third world people? Hey, I'm an American, I care about AMERICA. And it's not like the big corporations are doing those third world countries any favors opening factories there.

As for Bob, he won a huge judgement against the idiot who made the PSA. He then used that money to open a new factory in Guatemala, from which he made an extra million and for which Guatemala honored him as a great humanitarian. Messing with Bob never works.

Actually, messing with Bob works just fine, if you are willing to do it. Bob sues. Judge says "Oops, sorry, what in that commerical wasn't true, exactly, Bob? Oh, and there are some nice guys from the Local who want to have a word with you when you step outside of court."

Bob is probably toast. And no one will want to be the next Bob.

And here's the lesson for Bob and the other rich bullies. There are more of us than there are of you.

 

[JoeB131]

A UPS driver who makes a mistake leaves a pair of shoes at the wrong house and no one asks him if they should wear the black shoes or the green ones to nail the big interview. A pharmacist who makes a mistake kills someone and people ask him every day how about medication that could kill them if taken wrongly. I'm going to pay the pharmacist more.

A UPS driver has as much potential to kill someone if he does his job wrong. What if he gets that piece of equipment to the wrong place or if he blows through a redlight?

I really want both of these people to be well-trained, well-compensated professionals.

Here's the thing. If the Pharmacist is getting paid less, it's because of all his fancy education, a big corporation will still try to find a way to screw him.

 

[JoeB131]

Walmart wouldn't exist if there were no customers buying their products. Apparently, you can't deal with successful examples that counter your every argument.

Walmart is very good at what it does. So was John Wayne Gacy until he got caught.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A UPS driver who makes a mistake leaves a pair of shoes at the wrong house and no one asks him if they should wear the black shoes or the green ones to nail the big interview. A pharmacist who makes a mistake kills someone and people ask him every day how about medication that could kill them if taken wrongly. I'm going to pay the pharmacist more.

A UPS driver has as much potential to kill someone if he does his job wrong. What if he gets that piece of equipment to the wrong place or if he blows through a redlight?

I really want both of these people to be well-trained, well-compensated professionals.

Here's the thing. If the Pharmacist is getting paid less, it's because of all his fancy education, a big corporation will still try to find a way to screw him.

As I explained before, a person is only worth as much as another who will do the same job.

There are vacancies in the medical field on every level. You can't find enough people to do those jobs, therefore, you must increase the pay in order to get them.

I've known several college kids who took aim at being a pharmacist, but they chose different careers because of how hard it was to become a pharmacist.

Much like your delusions on CEO's, pharmacists are not people that sit there playing with pills. They are just a half-step from being a doctor.

 

[JoeB131]

As I explained before, a person is only worth as much as another who will do the same job.

There are vacancies in the medical field on every level. You can't find enough people to do those jobs, therefore, you must increase the pay in order to get them.

How about everyone just being able to make a living wage for doing their job, and be done with it. How about a system where we make sure everyone has a job, and if we have to tax millionaires to create that, it's all good.

I know, Crazy, right. We need people fighting over menial jobs instead...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's not the union that negotiates for them. That's why stars and sports athletes have their own individual contracts. The union people don't make that much money. The money goes to the star actors or athletes. So why (like CEO's) do they make so much money? Because of their past performances.

You go to a game to see Shaq. You go to a movie to see Tom Cruise. You don't buy Cigna because Ed Hanaway is running the place, making decisions like letting Natline Sarkisyan die because treating her was too expensive.

If you want a job where you feel your pay should reflect the financial success of a company, make sure you get one with profit sharing. If you can't find one of those, then make personal investments in your company. But don't expect that CEO's or anybody else for that matter will cut their own pay to give some of it to you. That's ridiculous. Did you ever ask your employer to cut your pay so that the janitor or cleaning lady can make more money? If not, then you're a horrible person.

Actually, I do currently work for a company that is employee owned... but that's not the point. The point is not "Well, I can get away with it." I think the government SHOULD regulate CEO Pay of publically traded companies, at least. I also think that the rich should pay 70% income tax like they did before that senile fuck Reagan came along and made greed a game plan. It's no coincidence that CEO's Went from making 10 times employee pay to hundreds of times employee pay. It also isn't a conincidence that those Socialist countries like Japan or Europe, where the rich are paying their fair share, you don't see the kind of pay disparities.

I guess that's why Europe doesn't have our level of success.

So you tax rich people at 70%. How does that help one working man? All you do is give government more money, promote rich people finding tax shelters or investing overseas, or otherwise rich people leaving this country for higher grounds, but you don't help the poor or working people one bit.

Liberal solutions are always failures because as Rush Limbaugh says repeatedly "Liberals measure success by intent. Conservatives measure success by results."

Your flaw is you think that when government intrudes in our lives, there are no ramifications. Everything will turn out like you think it will. Government forcing limited pay for CEO's would have the same result as limiting law abiding citizens from owning firearms. It would do more harm than good.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

As I explained before, a person is only worth as much as another who will do the same job.

There are vacancies in the medical field on every level. You can't find enough people to do those jobs, therefore, you must increase the pay in order to get them.

How about everyone just being able to make a living wage for doing their job, and be done with it. How about a system where we make sure everyone has a job, and if we have to tax millionaires to create that, it's all good.

I know, Crazy, right. We need people fighting over menial jobs instead...

It is crazy because government doesn't create jobs--the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is impede or promote policies that help the private sector create jobs.

If you want government to run industry, then you are in the wrong country. If people want to earn more money, they have to do it themselves. You have to be a more valuable employee to make more money. If you can't make it at the job you have, then you need to learn the skills to make the kind of money you desire.

The Americans consumer already showed that they absolutely will not support good paying American monkey jobs based on their purchases. It's why Walmart is the number one store in America today.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tell you what you post your tax return first

But you better run off to work like a good little boy
Maybe today's the day you get your own stapler

Haven't done my taxes yet this year, but frankly, people who have to brag about their success on the internet usually can't in real life.

You mean the way you like to say you have business owners crawling at your feet begging you for the crumbs you throw out?

It figures a guy like you would wait until the last minute to do anything but when you do get them done at 11:59 on April 15th go ahead and post them

 

[Skull Pilot]

My job involves evaluating data and making good decisions.

Sure it does, that's why you blame guns and not the people.

Well, it's a pretty simple evaluation. People in this country can get guns. We have lots of murders.

Other countries they can't get guns, and they have few murders.

This isn't complicated...

Not all those murders are committed with guns

 

[JoeB131]

I guess that's why Europe doesn't have our level of success.

Uh, actually, the Europeans enjoy a higher level of living than we do.

They have lower crimes rates.
They have longer life expectencies
They have lower infant mortality rates
They have less wealth inequality
They are better educated on average.

But we gots Jesus on our side... so there's that.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean the way you like to say you have business owners crawling at your feet begging you for the crumbs you throw out?

Yeah, pretty much. Shit, last job, I had to deal with ten cold calls a week. This is better, because we aren't dealing with that as much.

It figures a guy like you would wait until the last minute to do anything but when you do get them done at 11:59 on April 15th go ahead and post them

Naw, the thing is, most years, I do them in February and get my refund. But because I had such a banging year with the resume writing, I know I'm going to end up owing the government money this year. Also, I've been busy you know, writing resumes most weekends, so I haven't had an hour to try to sort through it all. I'll probably get it done this weekend. But thanks for asking.

 

[bripat9643]

And those are the ones that are known about. There is no law requiring you to inform police after you protected yourself with a firearm unless you shoot the thing.

quite right. Because usually what you call "defending yourself" most non-gun nuts would call "Assault' and "Menacing"...

No they don't. The police and the courts don't call it assault or menacing, so what makes you think ordinary people would call it that? We're talking about people committing crimes, here, not innocent victims.

 

[bripat9643]

I guess that's why Europe doesn't have our level of success.

Uh, actually, the Europeans enjoy a higher level of living than we do.

They have lower crimes rates.
They have longer life expectencies
They have lower infant mortality rates
They have less wealth inequality
They are better educated on average.

But we gots Jesus on our side... so there's that.

None of those measure your material standard of living. Ask a liberal to draw a triangle and he always draws a square of a circle.

 

[JoeB131]

It is crazy because government doesn't create jobs--the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is impede or promote policies that help the private sector create jobs.

No, guy, you see, this is where you have it wrong. The Private sector doesn't create jobs.

Consumer Demand creates jobs. The Capitalist is a parasite whose convinced you he's a vital organ.

Sometimes the private sector does a better job of meeting consumer demands. Sometimes the government does, when it's something like a road. Sometimes, the private sector does things the government SHOULD be doing, like health care. Which is why America spends twice as much on GDP % than those nasty old commie Europeans and we have the worst results.

Now, the one thing that the Private Sector does is create the myth that they are paragons of efficiency while the government is inefficient. Mostly because the government doesn't spend billions of dollars creating this myth. But the most effective place I ever worked was still the US Army. Most of the private sector companies I've worked for have been the great combination of stupid and arrogant that has left me despising the capitalist system.

 

[JoeB131]

No they don't. The police and the courts don't call it assault or menacing, so what makes you think ordinary people would call it that? We're talking about people committing crimes, here, not innocent victims.

Well, actually, they usually do call it exactly that, which is why most of you gun nuts don't call the cops and say, "I done good" after you terrified some black kid with your penis compensator. It's why the FBI only calculates 47,000 DGU's while the gun nuts claim things like 1.5 million.

 

[JoeB131]

None of those measure your material standard of living. Ask a liberal to draw a triangle and he always draws a square of a circle.

Dude, you are babbling. Point is, American have a lower quality of life than Western Europeans. I know this kills you and all, because you think you are God's own special snowflake.

Now, we used to be on top. You know, that period between FDR and LBJ when we did it right. But the Republicans have spent the last 40 years fucking it up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I guess that's why Europe doesn't have our level of success.

Uh, actually, the Europeans enjoy a higher level of living than we do.

They have lower crimes rates.
They have longer life expectencies
They have lower infant mortality rates
They have less wealth inequality
They are better educated on average.

But we gots Jesus on our side... so there's that.

FYI The UK has more violent crimes than we do not less

But hey why don't you move the Europe
You would love the extreme nanny states

 

[Skull Pilot]

You mean the way you like to say you have business owners crawling at your feet begging you for the crumbs you throw out?

Yeah, pretty much. Shit, last job, I had to deal with ten cold calls a week. This is better, because we aren't dealing with that as much.

It figures a guy like you would wait until the last minute to do anything but when you do get them done at 11:59 on April 15th go ahead and post them

Naw, the thing is, most years, I do them in February and get my refund. But because I had such a banging year with the resume writing, I know I'm going to end up owing the government money this year. Also, I've been busy you know, writing resumes most weekends, so I haven't had an hour to try to sort through it all. I'll probably get it done this weekend. But thanks for asking.

That's funny

I guess paying in a hundred bucks would stretch your budget though

 

[bripat9643]

No they don't. The police and the courts don't call it assault or menacing, so what makes you think ordinary people would call it that? We're talking about people committing crimes, here, not innocent victims.

Well, actually, they usually do call it exactly that, which is why most of you gun nuts don't call the cops and say, "I done good" after you terrified some black kid with your penis compensator. It's why the FBI only calculates 47,000 DGU's while the gun nuts claim things like 1.5 million.

I did a thorough google search for this figure, and I couldn't find any reference to your 47,000 figure. You obviously just made it up. You're obviously a lying leftwing douche bag.

 

[bripat9643]

None of those measure your material standard of living. Ask a liberal to draw a triangle and he always draws a square of a circle.

Dude, you are babbling. Point is, American have a lower quality of life than Western Europeans. I know this kills you and all, because you think you are God's own special snowflake.

Now, we used to be on top. You know, that period between FDR and LBJ when we did it right. But the Republicans have spent the last 40 years fucking it up.

The point is you didn't post anything that showed their standard of living is higher, you lying douche bag. You're just a propaganda spewing piece of shit, Joe. Who do you think you're fooling?