Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Don't see the problem with going over the cliff.
It's what they voted on.
It would REALLY reduce spending.
Lets do it!
It will be the 'Conservatives' screaming first if we do.
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Don't see the problem with going over the cliff.
It's what they voted on.
It would REALLY reduce spending.
Lets do it!
Baby's don't produce anything either, is that why you liberals like to kill them?
Stop. You know I'm not a liberal willow. You've been told a million times.
Only a liberal would say what you just said ^^^^^^. Dude!
Don't see the problem with going over the cliff.
It's what they voted on.
It would REALLY reduce spending.
Lets do it!
It will be the 'Conservatives' screaming first if we do.
Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.
Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare
The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide
The only way to attack escalating medical costs is to create a universal single payer health care system. That has worked for every other industrial nation in the world. Not only worked, has cut their costs, resulted in far better outcomes in longevity and infant mortality. Also, reduced the number of bankruptcies due to medical bills to zero for those nations, while ours remains at 750,000 to a million families a year.
Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.
Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent
Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.
Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare
The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide
Raising the retirement age won't do diddly to help the debt or deficit. And in fact because of the added cost of doing might actually have many un-intended consequences.
There's no obligation on the part of employers to keep old employees around..for one.
Do the math.
Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare
The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide
Raising the retirement age won't do diddly to help the debt or deficit. And in fact because of the added cost of doing might actually have many un-intended consequences.
There's no obligation on the part of employers to keep old employees around..for one.
Do the math.
What added cost? What are you even talking about?
raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.
raising the age is far from a bandaid. It will fix social security and do much to make medicare more solvent
raise it to what?
raising the age is far from a bandaid. It will fix social security and do much to make medicare more solvent
raise it to what?
70
raise it to what?
70
Wow! I wouldn't expect hearing that from a democrat. I'd say 68 is more reasonable IMO.
Raising the retirement age unfairly dings those on the lower end of the income scale. Busting ass in a boiler room is no easy task for a 60 year old. It is unbearable for a 69 year old.
Raising the retirement age unfairly dings those on the lower end of the income scale. Busting ass in a boiler room is no easy task for a 60 year old. It is unbearable for a 69 year old.
You are going to have to plan for your own retirement. If you have a job you can't do till you are 70, you need to look at other options. You can work at Walmart in your 60s.
Or else you can structure your retirement where you pay more into an IRA/401K so that you will have extra funds and retire early
Raising the retirement age unfairly dings those on the lower end of the income scale. Busting ass in a boiler room is no easy task for a 60 year old. It is unbearable for a 69 year old.
You are going to have to plan for your own retirement. If you have a job you can't do till you are 70, you need to look at other options. You can work at Walmart in your 60s.
Or else you can structure your retirement where you pay more into an IRA/401K so that you will have extra funds and retire early
That would be a reasonable way to go about it if the average blue collar job paid enough to save a substantial amount for retirement. It does not.
Wow! I wouldn't expect hearing that from a democrat. I'd say 68 is more reasonable IMO.
I'm talking phasing it in to 70.
If you are under 45 it would go to 70
Under 50 goes to 69
Under 55 goes to 68
Everyone else stays the same
People are healthier and live longer. Time for SS to reflect that. If you want to retire earlier use your IRA or other savings to carry you
A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.
Wow! I wouldn't expect hearing that from a democrat. I'd say 68 is more reasonable IMO.
I'm talking phasing it in to 70.
If you are under 45 it would go to 70
Under 50 goes to 69
Under 55 goes to 68
Everyone else stays the same
People are healthier and live longer. Time for SS to reflect that. If you want to retire earlier use your IRA or other savings to carry you
How could that be... according to libs we have the worst health care system in the modern world.