Johnson First Intro of Johnson/Weld to the public by CNN..

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    We had an open border policy thru Ellis Island for decades. Open in the sense of more generous than at other periods in our history. As opposed to the sketchy politically motivated quotas now that highly favor immigrants from the countries we helped to destroy.

    Open doesn't mean no screening for "means of support", disease, crime, corruption, etc. Under Libertarian policy, EVERY border crosser would HAVE to be a contributor, because all the "bennies" would go away. If they are attracted for the RIGHT reasons. Why not be generous?
     
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    I still have a hard time with the immigration issues. My stance on immigration is not related to hate or anger. My point is that we are a country of over 300 million people and not nearly enough jobs for everyone as it is. Why continue to take in more?
     
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    Why not be generous? Because our own resources are limited and the more people, the less resources.
     
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    Hmm. I wouldn't consider Ellis Island as being an "open borders" policy. ;)
     
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    That's the thing though. Libertarians don't want a corporatacracy either. But when you really look at how a regulatory regime works, it actually provokes corporate/government collusion. There should be a 'wall of separation' between economic power and state power, just as their is between religious power and state power. Western society learned, after many painful lessons, that giving a coercive state power over our religious beliefs and activities was a mistake. We're learning the same lesson with the market.
     
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    A pothead? If someone has built a multi-million dollar business from scratch (not using $1,000,000.00 his father gave him), been a two term governor, climbed 7 of the highest mountains in the world, slashed the wasteful spending of the state he governed, and they smoke pot, you forget everything else and label him a pothead? lmao
     
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    No labeling. I suppose I used a bad term.
     
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    No biggie. But please look at what he has accomplished.
     
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    Dear Bruce_T_Laney
    What I am suggesting is organizing
    the Libertarian and Cruz supporters
    and the Green and Sanders supporters in pushing a LAWSUIT against BOTH major parties demanding billions if not trillions in compensation/reimbursement to taxpayers, then open up the floors to Constitutional conventions to the public to bring in their proposals for where the reimbursements/credits should go.

    And bring together the independent Cruz/Trump supporters and Clinton/Sanders supporters who DON'T WANT the same old politics, but are willing to stand together to ensure all FOUR camps get their proposals endorsed, both the platforms and points of objections refused.

    Work out an agreement in advance with Ryan to pick a VP to try to get elected in the House, who COMMITS to working with supporters of the four major camps and with all other parties that want to represent themselves.
    And either find a way to get what they want through
    a. federal govt if all parties agree on policy
    b. state govt if they agree it belongs there
    c. parties or people if they agree it should be private
    and not in the hands of either state or federal govt

    And create JOBS for all the candidates to represent their constituents and their platform.

    Agree to have reps from Democratic and Republican parties to SUE and BE SUED to force the parties to fund their policies promised to constituents and to get these out of federal govt if they don't belong there.

    by opening up the process of outlining the abuses/grievances, the cost OWED to taxpayers,
    and what solutions could be paid for by applying that credit, then maybe we'll get enough people to go in the same direction with plans, even if they don't all agree which plans to fund. Just write it up and demand a Pres/VP team that can represent, include and negotiate how to get that paid for by collecting or issuing back CREDITS for past govt abuses, in the trillions for contested war contracts and in the billions if not trillions for the corporate handouts and govt shutdown over ACA.

    CC: flacaltenn
     
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    Cruz and sanders supporters? they are both globalists part of the corrupt one party system of demopublicans and reprocrats.Gary Johnson and Ron Paul supporters is what you should have said,
     

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