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Stupid idea.
Electric cars are not a solution to our energy problems.
No, they aren't THE answer...but they ARE one of them.
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Stupid idea.
Electric cars are not a solution to our energy problems.
Great news.
A journey of a 1,000 miles begins with a single step....
First big piece of 'Electric Highway' gets juice
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 3/16/12 | Jeff Barnard
First big piece of 'Electric Highway' gets juice - San Jose Mercury News
Electric car drivers hit the road Friday to inaugurate the first major section of a West Coast "Electric Highway" dotted with stations where they can charge up in 20 minutes.
The stretch of 160 miles of Interstate 5 served by eight stations marks the next big step in developing an infrastructure that until now has been limited primarily to chargers in homes and workplaces.
The stations go from the California border north to the Oregon city of Cottage Grove and are located at gas stations, restaurants and motels just off the nation's second-busiest interstate. One is at an inn that was once a stage coach stop.
Spaced about every 25 miles, the stations allow a Nissan Leaf with a range of about 70 miles to miss one and still make it to the next. Electric car drivers will be able to recharge in about 20 minutes on the fast-chargers. The charge is free for now.
"I would say range-anxiety with these fast chargers will be nearly a non-issue for me," said Justin Denley, who owns a Nissan Leaf and joined the caravan. Inspired by the stations, his family is planning a trip from Medford to Portland, a distance of about 280 miles. Last summer, he took the family on a 120-mile trip to the coast and had to include an overnight stop at an RV park to charge up.
He expects the trip to Portland to take perhaps three hours longer than in a gas car, because the only chargers available for the last 100 miles are slower, level 2 chargers.
(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...
First big piece of 'Electric Highway' gets juice
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 3/16/12 | Jeff Barnard
First big piece of 'Electric Highway' gets juice - San Jose Mercury News
Electric car drivers hit the road Friday to inaugurate the first major section of a West Coast "Electric Highway" dotted with stations where they can charge up in 20 minutes.
The stretch of 160 miles of Interstate 5 served by eight stations marks the next big step in developing an infrastructure that until now has been limited primarily to chargers in homes and workplaces.
The stations go from the California border north to the Oregon city of Cottage Grove and are located at gas stations, restaurants and motels just off the nation's second-busiest interstate. One is at an inn that was once a stage coach stop.
Spaced about every 25 miles, the stations allow a Nissan Leaf with a range of about 70 miles to miss one and still make it to the next. Electric car drivers will be able to recharge in about 20 minutes on the fast-chargers. The charge is free for now.
"I would say range-anxiety with these fast chargers will be nearly a non-issue for me," said Justin Denley, who owns a Nissan Leaf and joined the caravan. Inspired by the stations, his family is planning a trip from Medford to Portland, a distance of about 280 miles. Last summer, he took the family on a 120-mile trip to the coast and had to include an overnight stop at an RV park to charge up.
He expects the trip to Portland to take perhaps three hours longer than in a gas car, because the only chargers available for the last 100 miles are slower, level 2 chargers.
(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...
change sacres the shit out of some people
lol, so progess is taking more time out of your lives...all to get away from that evil, OIL.....why don't we just go back to horse and buggy..
Let the private sector develop the technology by themselves.Hypothetical scenario. What if your rushing your pregnant wife to the hospital after her water broke and you look down at the gauge and your charge is low and you have to stop the car for 20 minutes to get it recharged while she is in agony? What if you have a emergency and you have to go somewhere but all the sudden there is a power outage in the area? This is a disaster in the making.
Ummmm... how about this? You take the OTHER fuckin' car.
that being said....20 minutes is too long to wait. I'd sooner see a standardization of battery technology(they all use the same battery) and have battery swapping stations that can replace your battery in less time than it takes to fill up a tankful of gas.
That's part of the problem.... Every car company wants to have their own proprietary battery.... Reminds me of the day of Betamax vs. VHS...or more recently...Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD. Eventually they all came to a consensus... but it took forever.
If we really want to do this right and have a solid infrastucture that supports electric vehicles... Standardization and swap stations are the way to go.
the future will be there even if you refuse to accept it
Let the private sector develop the technology by themselves.Hypothetical scenario. What if your rushing your pregnant wife to the hospital after her water broke and you look down at the gauge and your charge is low and you have to stop the car for 20 minutes to get it recharged while she is in agony? What if you have a emergency and you have to go somewhere but all the sudden there is a power outage in the area? This is a disaster in the making.
Ummmm... how about this? You take the OTHER fuckin' car.
that being said....20 minutes is too long to wait. I'd sooner see a standardization of battery technology(they all use the same battery) and have battery swapping stations that can replace your battery in less time than it takes to fill up a tankful of gas.
That's part of the problem.... Every car company wants to have their own proprietary battery.... Reminds me of the day of Betamax vs. VHS...or more recently...Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD. Eventually they all came to a consensus... but it took forever.
If we really want to do this right and have a solid infrastucture that supports electric vehicles... Standardization and swap stations are the way to go.
If the government had pushed VCR's like they are alternative energy, they would have backed Betamax and vhs still would have won the market.
Do nutters have to be stupid in every thread? Is it some kind of rule?
the future will be there even if you refuse to accept it
I'll accept it, when it is acceptable. Cars costing an additional 8 to 10 thousand dollars with a range of 30 miles is not acceptable. What part of that don't you understand.
How much will it cost to put in charging stations every 30 miles?
And if you're running the heat or AC you might not even get 30 miles on a charge.
EVs are not 'the answer'. But they are one answer. Particulary for people that generate their own juice through solar, wind, or small hydro. Most of us put the most miles on our vehicles in the daily work, grocery store, school, and social activies trips. For this, even the present limited range EVs are fine. As the batteries get better, the EVs will become more attractive. Particularly as gasoline goes past $5 a gallon.
Are we in agreement that it is desirable to develop alternatives to fossil fuels that are capable of powering our homes, businesses and vehicles?
Can we establish that as a national goal?
You don't seem to understand apostrophes, or much of anything else, for that matterthe future will be there even if you refuse to accept it
I'll accept it, when it is acceptable. Cars costing an additional 8 to 10 thousand dollars with a range of 30 miles is not acceptable. What part of that don't you understand.
when there are more they will be cheaper.
You dont seem to understand production very well
Regressives unite.