Firefighters Watch As House Burns Down

You know.......how many people here have forgotten to pay a bill that only comes once a year and is less than a hundred bucks?

Many of us have. Only instead of getting a late notice, they watched his house burn down.

They should have let him pay the 75 bucks and saved his house.

He had a waiver before.... appears he is quite aware of the way things operate in his area...

Do I think they could have saved his house? Yep... I also personally think that he should have been charged for every manhour, every drop of water, every bit of equipment maintenance, every resource used, etc... but his community and his VFD organization made the agreement and set the rules.... he is not forced to live there and if he did not like it, he has the freedom to move... IMHO seems quite evident that he was trying to milk one off the system again like he did in the past.. a leech.. and the leech made his bet and the dice came up snake eyes

You really are a heartless cocksmoker, ain't ya?

I hope that the next time you have a chance to demonstrate kindness and compassion for your fellow human being, you leave your greedy blinders on and Karma kicks you square in the ass.

Good luck asshole.
 
Like I say, I know the Potomac area of the state pretty damn well, and call bullshit.

And yes, that's exactly what you said:

As I said.. for those like you who cannot comprehend... replace the first comma with the word 'if' and the second comma with the word 'then' and rub your 2 little braincells together and you can figure out what the sentence means...

Notice it did not say I DO NOT DONATE....

Notice I did not say in my profile that I lived in Potomac MD but in MD on the Potomac Potomac River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The river is approximately 383 statute miles (616 km) long

My God you are retarded

And I think I know my area, my tiny town that I have been living in for 11 years, and my neighborhood quite well.. thank you...

Insertion of the word "if" completely changes the meaning, so it's pretty stupid claiming I'm the one with a reading comprehension problem, when you can't write. I still think you're making stuff up. Are you claiming that if I had a car accident in your "community" I'd be billed for rescue service? If I rented a house in your area, I would be billed if I didn't "donate"? I still call bullshit on that one.

I'm talking exclusively about emergency service only, and not some non-emergency service like an ambulance ride home from a hospital, which many places charge for.

You pay your money, you take your chances.... You lay with dogs, you get fleas... You represent yourself, you have a fool for a client... all pretty easy to understand phrases that replace a known word with a comma to shorten the phrase.. and most anyone with a lick of education or common sense knows what is meant....

Again, you twit, I never said I donate followed by a statement that I don't donate.... You're just too ignorant to either see it or admit your mistake

If you rent, you are not the property owner.. and while the property owner may have it in the rental or lease agreement that you as the renter are responsible for the VFD fee or donation, I know of 2 house owners who rent out who pay the fee themselves because it is their property on the line....

And again, as we mentioned before.. much different when people's lives are in danger.. as we have had the VFD respond to accident on the main road of people traveling thru... but that is a public road.... not a private residence where the people are responsible for the upkeep and protection of their own property
 
You know.......how many people here have forgotten to pay a bill that only comes once a year and is less than a hundred bucks?

Many of us have. Only instead of getting a late notice, they watched his house burn down.

They should have let him pay the 75 bucks and saved his house.

He had a waiver before.... appears he is quite aware of the way things operate in his area...

Do I think they could have saved his house? Yep... I also personally think that he should have been charged for every manhour, every drop of water, every bit of equipment maintenance, every resource used, etc... but his community and his VFD organization made the agreement and set the rules.... he is not forced to live there and if he did not like it, he has the freedom to move... IMHO seems quite evident that he was trying to milk one off the system again like he did in the past.. a leech.. and the leech made his bet and the dice came up snake eyes

You really are a heartless cocksmoker, ain't ya?

I hope that the next time you have a chance to demonstrate kindness and compassion for your fellow human being, you leave your greedy blinders on and Karma kicks you square in the ass.

Good luck asshole.

My personal VOLUNTARY willingness to help others or neighbors in need is not the same as a contracted entity, a service entity, or a government entity and the responsibilities they have
 
You know.......how many people here have forgotten to pay a bill that only comes once a year and is less than a hundred bucks?

Many of us have. Only instead of getting a late notice, they watched his house burn down.

They should have let him pay the 75 bucks and saved his house.

The problem in making exceptions though is that quickly becomes an entitlement. I don't want to pay my health or dental insurance premium so I'll just let it lapse and pay it if and when I become sick or need a root canal.

I don't want to pay my homeowner's insurance so I'll just let it lapse and pay it if and when my house has hail or wind damage or somebody sues me.

I don't want to pay my auto insurance so I'll just let it lapse and pay it if and when I have an accident.

Some slippery slope arguments are valid and this is one of those that is.

Nobody forced this guy to live in an area with no fire department. His area was outside the jurisdiction of the city fire department that agreed to service those out of district home owners who paid a fee for services. In all such arrangements, most fire departments won't put out the fire but will stand by in case it threatened somebody who did pay the fee. People being people, if the rules that cost them something are not followed, the entire system will break down because nobody wants to be the one sap who pays when everybody else doesn't.

Those who don't like the system made available to them should get together and organize their own volunteer fire department. Thousands of rural communities have done just that.

In one remote area of Quay County, NM, homeowners had no fire protection from anybody and were suffering exhorbitant insurance premiums because of it. So, they went together to install strategically located fire hydrants (to supply a pumper truck) and bought a couple of fire trucks parked in centrally located barns, and hired a specialist to come in and train all the homeowners in how to use them. Problem solved at far less expense than organizing a complete volunteer fire department.

Folks simply have to take responsibility for the choices they make.
 
I must fulfill a duty and acknowledge DiamonDave's superior and yeomanly handling of the moonbat idjits in this thread.
 
The problem in making exceptions though is that quickly becomes an entitlement. I don't want to pay my health or dental insurance premium so I'll just let it lapse and pay it if and when I become sick or need a root canal.


And this is why ObamaCare is doomed to fail.

Once people grok that they can pay a small fine which is cheaper than insurance, they will wait until they have an actual emergency instead of opting in.

The "revenues" will be far lower than the cooked projections used to pass the legislation, while the costs explode out of control due to unchecked demand.
 
As I said.. for those like you who cannot comprehend... replace the first comma with the word 'if' and the second comma with the word 'then' and rub your 2 little braincells together and you can figure out what the sentence means...

Notice it did not say I DO NOT DONATE....

Notice I did not say in my profile that I lived in Potomac MD but in MD on the Potomac Potomac River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The river is approximately 383 statute miles (616 km) long

My God you are retarded

And I think I know my area, my tiny town that I have been living in for 11 years, and my neighborhood quite well.. thank you...

Insertion of the word "if" completely changes the meaning, so it's pretty stupid claiming I'm the one with a reading comprehension problem, when you can't write. I still think you're making stuff up. Are you claiming that if I had a car accident in your "community" I'd be billed for rescue service? If I rented a house in your area, I would be billed if I didn't "donate"? I still call bullshit on that one.

I'm talking exclusively about emergency service only, and not some non-emergency service like an ambulance ride home from a hospital, which many places charge for.

You pay your money, you take your chances.... You lay with dogs, you get fleas... You represent yourself, you have a fool for a client... all pretty easy to understand phrases that replace a known word with a comma to shorten the phrase.. and most anyone with a lick of education or common sense knows what is meant....

Again, you twit, I never said I donate followed by a statement that I don't donate.... You're just too ignorant to either see it or admit your mistake

If you rent, you are not the property owner.. and while the property owner may have it in the rental or lease agreement that you as the renter are responsible for the VFD fee or donation, I know of 2 house owners who rent out who pay the fee themselves because it is their property on the line....

And again, as we mentioned before.. much different when people's lives are in danger.. as we have had the VFD respond to accident on the main road of people traveling thru... but that is a public road.... not a private residence where the people are responsible for the upkeep and protection of their own property

So they won't bill you if you're in an accident on a public road? Suppose I'm driving down one of your public roads, and a bunch of drunk wahoos, playing mail box baseball, run me into someone's private property? Will I be billed for the rescue?

Are you sure your VFD isn't running an insurance scam?
 
Insertion of the word "if" completely changes the meaning, so it's pretty stupid claiming I'm the one with a reading comprehension problem, when you can't write. I still think you're making stuff up. Are you claiming that if I had a car accident in your "community" I'd be billed for rescue service? If I rented a house in your area, I would be billed if I didn't "donate"? I still call bullshit on that one.

I'm talking exclusively about emergency service only, and not some non-emergency service like an ambulance ride home from a hospital, which many places charge for.

You pay your money, you take your chances.... You lay with dogs, you get fleas... You represent yourself, you have a fool for a client... all pretty easy to understand phrases that replace a known word with a comma to shorten the phrase.. and most anyone with a lick of education or common sense knows what is meant....

Again, you twit, I never said I donate followed by a statement that I don't donate.... You're just too ignorant to either see it or admit your mistake

If you rent, you are not the property owner.. and while the property owner may have it in the rental or lease agreement that you as the renter are responsible for the VFD fee or donation, I know of 2 house owners who rent out who pay the fee themselves because it is their property on the line....

And again, as we mentioned before.. much different when people's lives are in danger.. as we have had the VFD respond to accident on the main road of people traveling thru... but that is a public road.... not a private residence where the people are responsible for the upkeep and protection of their own property

So they won't bill you if you're in an accident on a public road? Suppose I'm driving down one of your public roads, and a bunch of drunk wahoos, playing mail box baseball, run me into someone's private property? Will I be billed for the rescue?

Are you sure your VFD isn't running an insurance scam?

You'd be a fucking riot if you were not so pitifully ignorant
 
Wanna know what a conservative only world looks like? Look no further than Obion County, Tennessee:
Imagine your home catches fire but the local fire department won’t respond, then watches it burn. That’s exactly what happened to a local family tonight. A local neighborhood is furious after firefighters watched as an Obion County, Tennessee, home burned to the ground.

The homeowner, Gene Cranick, said he offered to pay whatever it would take for firefighters to put out the flames, but was told it was too late. They wouldn’t do anything to stop his house from burning. Each year, Obion County residents must pay $75 if they want fire protection from the city of South Fulton. But the Cranicks did not pay. The mayor said if homeowners don’t pay, they’re out of luck. [...]

We asked the mayor of South Fulton if the chief could have made an exception. “Anybody that’s not in the city of South Fulton, it’s a service we offer, either they accept it or they don’t,” Mayor David Crocker said.
Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground | WPSD Local 6 - News, Sports, Weather - Paducah KY | Local

As ThinkProgress points out:
A local newspaper further pressed Mayor Crocker about the city’s policy, which has been in place since 1990. Crocker, a Republican who was elected in 2008 and serves with a county commission where every seat is also filled by a Republican, likened the policy to buying auto insurance

Just one prime example of the difference between the way conservatives govern and the way progressives govern.

As TP put it:
One, the conservative vision, believes in the on-your-own society, and informs a policy agenda that primarily serves the well off and privileged sectors of the country. The other vision, the progressive one, believes in an American Dream that works for all people, regardless of their racial, religious, or economic background.

Think Progress Tennessee County’s Subscription-Based Firefighters Watch As Family Home Burns Down

That's the choice we have this november- The conservative fend-for-yourself (besides the companies that ship jobs overseas) choice, or the liberal I-am-my-brothers-keeper choice.

How do you know what the political leanings of the firefighters were?
 
You pay your money, you take your chances.... You lay with dogs, you get fleas... You represent yourself, you have a fool for a client... all pretty easy to understand phrases that replace a known word with a comma to shorten the phrase.. and most anyone with a lick of education or common sense knows what is meant....

Again, you twit, I never said I donate followed by a statement that I don't donate.... You're just too ignorant to either see it or admit your mistake

If you rent, you are not the property owner.. and while the property owner may have it in the rental or lease agreement that you as the renter are responsible for the VFD fee or donation, I know of 2 house owners who rent out who pay the fee themselves because it is their property on the line....

And again, as we mentioned before.. much different when people's lives are in danger.. as we have had the VFD respond to accident on the main road of people traveling thru... but that is a public road.... not a private residence where the people are responsible for the upkeep and protection of their own property

So they won't bill you if you're in an accident on a public road? Suppose I'm driving down one of your public roads, and a bunch of drunk wahoos, playing mail box baseball, run me into someone's private property? Will I be billed for the rescue?

Are you sure your VFD isn't running an insurance scam?

You'd be a fucking riot if you were not so pitifully ignorant

IOWs, you're still unable to provide evidence for a claim you made, that I think is bullshit.

Is your VFD running an insurance scam? Cool for them if they can get insurance companies to fork over some change for public purpose. I'd love it if they were.

Suppose the yahoos were out brooming, and they whacked some black guy in the noodle, because he was trying to read your street signs, with his head out the window, which were non-compliant with Bush's regulatory standard. Suppose he wound up unconscious on someones lawn. Would your VFD EMTs bill him? Or would they just try to bilk his insurance company.
 
What? We have guns, but they don't define us, like the little conservatives who constantly have to keep babbling on about them. :lol:

Judy ....read what i was commenting on.....Geezus are you in the same thread as we are?......good god Woman....READ.....
 
So they won't bill you if you're in an accident on a public road? Suppose I'm driving down one of your public roads, and a bunch of drunk wahoos, playing mail box baseball, run me into someone's private property? Will I be billed for the rescue?

Are you sure your VFD isn't running an insurance scam?

You'd be a fucking riot if you were not so pitifully ignorant

IOWs, you're still unable to provide evidence for a claim you made, that I think is bullshit.

Is your VFD running an insurance scam? Cool for them if they can get insurance companies to fork over some change for public purpose. I'd love it if they were.

Suppose the yahoos were out brooming, and they whacked some black guy in the noodle, because he was trying to read your street signs, with his head out the window, which were non-compliant with Bush's regulatory standard. Suppose he wound up unconscious on someones lawn. Would your VFD EMTs bill him? Or would they just try to bilk his insurance company.

You're talking bout a hypothetical that doesn't apply to this case.

The firefighters are bound by law to render first-aid and to put out the fire if life and limb are at risk.
 
The firefighters acted like cold-hearted, soulless assholes. In other words, just like rightwingloons.

:thup:

Yet they are Likely NOT... They are Probably Mindless Liberals Following Orders to this Absurd length...

Are they Union?...

:)

peace...
It appears not. If you have any evidence that they are feel free to post it.

I don't know how you came to that unsupported conclusion.
 

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