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You posted a list of retaliatory attacks by the USA to imply our actions caused recruitment of radical Muslims...as if those things hadn't happened, 9-11 wouldn't have occurred either. You are completely full of shit on that issue.You are a poor student of history. Radical Muslims have been in existence ever since the pedophile Muhammad declared himself a prophet and commanded his followers to kill all non-believers. That was about 1400 years ago! (Over 1100 years BEFORE the USA declared independence from the King of England and became a nation)You are correct about the birth of innocence. However, children of radicals are often indoctrinated in their childhood, beginning, in some cases prior to Kindergarten age and they are irreversibly infused with aspirations of martyrdom and a bevy of virgins throughout their formative years rather than being educated to the fact that civilized societies exist in lands where sane minds govern.Quite true. That's why I often use the line:
KillALL Radical Muslims...and Their Children!
I have several moderate Muslim friends. Among them, there is more than one that agrees with that. One has had some of his family members killed by terrorists.
The problem is that killing people, like in Iraq, turned more people to radical Islam, and a child isn't automatically born radical.
If we do not kill the radical Muslims first, they will kill us (Muslim and non-Muslim alike) in the name of their maniacally intolerant theocracy.
Possibly some of these radicals are being radicalized from an early age.
Image what happens when the parents are angry at the US for invading Iraq, for invading Afghanistan, for staying in these countries for such a long time, for bombing Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan and on and on and uon. You grow up believing the US is the enemy of Islam.
Without such a foreign policy these people wouldn't be radicalized. Your solution to the problem of US military action radicalizing Muslims is to use MORE ATTACKS against Muslims. Er.... what the fuck?
Radical Muslims have been killing people ever since. Their sworn goal is to kill people. They are responsible for about 170,000,000 deaths...more than Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini, and the Chinese put together. There have been multiple Crusades by the Christians in retaliation for oppression and killing of Christians.
The Quran includes multiple verses calling for the killing of "infidels" (non-believers). Radical Islam's hatred and intolerance for the USA not a result of anything that happened in the 20th century.
Muhammad
Muhammad is the founder and chief prophet of Islam and the source for the Quran. "Muhammad" - whose name means "highly praised" - was born in Mecca in 570 AD.
In his late 30's, Muhammad took to regularly visiting a cave in Mount Hira, on the outskirts of Mecca, to seek solitude and contemplation. In 610, at the age of 40, Muhammad returned from one such visit telling his wife he had either gone mad or become a prophet, for he had been visited by an angel. The initially startled Khadija became his first convert.
The Quran's Verses of Violence
Read this article in its entirety. Read it and weep! The ideology of Islam as dictated in the Quran is replete with calls for mass murder of 'infidels'. If you are not a follower of Islam, you are an 'infidel'.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the USA or any other country fighting against it.
I'm a poor student of history, or you're reading things that aren't there?
Where did I say there weren't radical Muslims before 2003? I didn't. Oh, what a surprise.
Radical Muslims, like Radical Christians and other religions radicals have been doing radical things ever since they decided they were radical. Yes, and?
The point here is, and yes it has a lot to do with the USA, is HOW MANY radical Muslims there are, and how many of them are willing to wage war.
The Bible says lots of stuff.
Genesis 9:5-6
"And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man. “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image."
An eye for an eye. The Bible says you should kill killers, you should rape rapists, you should do all those things.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
Yep, kill gay people
1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”"
Some examples of killing in the Bible, but that doesn't mean that Christians go around killing all those the Bible tells them to. And the same with Muslims. Some of the radical Muslims, like radical Christians will go and kill.
However the number of Radical Muslims has increased massively since 2003. The reason the number has increased is because Muslims are getting extremely annoyed with the US.
Now, Jihad works. In Afghanistan in the 1800s the British turned up TWICE and were forced out TWICE because the Afghans could win with Jihad when they couldn't win by conventional means. The West has been going around causing problems and making Jihad the only way to fight back, so this is what they do.
The Madrid bombings, the London bombings, the Paris bombings, all from people who became radicals because of US foreign policy in the last 15 years or so.
You an ignore this truth if you like, but it doesn't stop it being the truth.