Fight C.A.I.R. & the A.C.L.U

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    why?
     
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    shogun has a double standard they sue anything christian, and are silent against anything muslim

    with c.a.i.r. they are silent on islamic terrorists

     
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    The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has consistently and persistently condemned terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians. CAIR has also organized fatwas, petition drives, placed advertisements in national and local newspapers, ran public service announcements on television and radio stations, helped local Mosques across the United States in holding open houses, published Op-Eds in local and national newspapers, conducted inter-faith meetings and worked with scholars to disseminate the peaceful teachings of Islam.

    In addition to specific campaigns, we have compiled a 68 page document showing all of the condemnations of terrorism after September 11th, 2001 and a similar document after the July 7th, 2006 bombings in London, UK.

    The following is a sampling of campaigns we have conducted.

    Fatwa Against Terrorism

    CAIR backs Fatwa against Terrorism. English, Arabic, Urdu radio anti-terror PSAs released (Washington, D.C., 7/28/05) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today offered its support for a fatwa, or Islamic religious ruling, against terrorism and extremism issued by the Fiqh Council of North America (FCNA) and endorsed by more than 120 U.S. Muslim groups, leaders and institutions.

    Not in the Name of Islam Petition

    The “Not in the Name of Islam” petition states: “We, the undersigned Muslims, wish to state clearly that those who commit acts of terror, murder and cruelty in the name of Islam are not only destroying innocent lives, but are also betraying the values of the faith they claim to represent. No injustice done to Muslims can ever justify the massacre of innocent people, and no act of terror will ever serve the cause of Islam. We repudiate and dissociate ourselves from any Muslim group or individual who commits such brutal and un-Islamic acts. We refuse to allow our faith to be held hostage by the criminal actions of a tiny minority acting outside the teachings of both the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

    Persistent and Consistent Condemnation of Terrorism

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has a clear record of consistently and persistently condemning terrorism. Yet American Muslim groups like CAIR get repeatedly asked the question why have Muslims not spoken out against terrorism? The fact is they have, but who is listening? This prompted one media commentator to ask, “Are Muslims condemning terror to the deaf?”


    http://www.cair.com/AmericanMuslims/AntiTerrorism.aspx



    Are they Silent?

    It didn't take much effort to find their policy regarding terrorism on their website, dude...

    What else do you have?
     
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    you said we, are you muslim?

    just curious, i got friends who are , so its not like its a litmus test.

    c.a.i.r. publicly goes after anyone who dares criticizes islam or islamic extremists

    mainly they try to suppress free speech.

    Thats why i dont like them

    I have heard lots of negatives on them.

    ill look at your links later


     
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    You don't entice cooperation at the end of a pointed finger. I'd suggest holding onto as many moderates as possible. Their stance on terrorism is clear. Muslim may be a dirty word these days but until you can prove accusations they are just as much not guilty as the next group accused.

    They protect their own. Much like christians protect THEIR own. Like I said, if you can prove something then i'll check it out.. if not.. maybe reconsider the talking points.

    glenn beck and mike savage are hardly men to look up to.
     
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    Im sorry, i wasnt trying to point my finger.

    OH, and muslims shouldnt protect their own, when their own are terrorists?

    do you understand what i mean?

    al queda will kill any muslim who doesnt comply.

    But wasnt trying to be pompous, but it shouldnt be racist to point out, islamic radicals exist in islam

    glad we can talk it out without name calling


     
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    not every muslim is a terrorist.

    Its clear that a lot of people in america think that they are.

    This is why beck and savage can't pin anything besides accusations against Cair. If they could prove malicious behaviour it would be over already. THEIR finger pointing and accusations and the wave of bullshit caused are why this group exhists in the first place.


    This is why I asked for evidence... not talking points.

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    Do you have any evidence to suggest alot of americans believe all muslims are terrorsts

    I dont think every time people say something about muslim terrorists, the pc police should come and repremand them for not saying all muslims

    C.A.I.R. has been going after conservative radio talk show hosts. And i dont support silencing people, becuase you dont agree with that

    Glen beck is one of the best, i dont know what you have against him

     
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    Pitiful, really pitiful, martin.

    Stay close to Glen Beck. Maybe he is YOUR saviour.
     

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