Feds Raid California ‘Maternity Hotels’ for Birth Tourists

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This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.


There is one exception: Children born to foreign diplomats posted in the US are not considered US citizens.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.


There is one exception: Children born to foreign diplomats posted in the US are not considered US citizens.

There are more than that. If an invading army was occupying US territory any of their children would not be US citizens either. As they wouldn't be subject to US law.

Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.
 
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I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
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You are an idiot. "Jurisdiction" means political jurisdiction not legal jurisdiction. A child born in america to a non-citizen automatically inherits the citizenship of the mother and that is the child's political jurisdiction. THINK
 
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Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.

My gawd. Another moron who doesn't understand the difference between legal jurisdiction and political jurisdiction. !! Where do you idiots come from?
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.
The republicans of 1866 were’n thinking of mass migration back then, we had just finished a really horrible civil war.
The trouble is enforced of the 14th amendment didn’t start until the 1960’s. Different times
 
Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.

My gawd. Another moron who doesn't understand the difference between legal jurisdiction and political jurisdiction. !! Where do you idiots come from?

Laughing......there's no mention of 'political' jurisdiction. Just jurisdiction. Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to the jurisdiction of US law. If they run a red light or assault someone or write a bad check, they can be arrested like anyone else.

If with that jurisdiction comes citizenship for their children. Or any child born in the US to parents similarly subject to the jurisdiction of US law.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.
The republicans of 1866 were’n thinking of mass migration back then, we had just finished a really horrible civil war.
The trouble is enforced of the 14th amendment didn’t start until the 1960’s. Different times

The relevant portion of the 14th was enforced as early as the 1890s with the Wong Kim Ark case.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.


There is one exception: Children born to foreign diplomats posted in the US are not considered US citizens.

There are more than that. If an invading army was occupying US territory any of their children would not be US citizens either. As they wouldn't be subject to US law.

Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.
Anyone "invading" coming here illegally or with the intent of having a child that is a US citizen for divisive purposes can be considered an invader.
 
I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
.

You are an idiot. "Jurisdiction" means political jurisdiction not legal jurisdiction. A child born in america to a non-citizen automatically inherits the citizenship of the mother and that is the child's political jurisdiction. THINK
Show us that distinction in the law.

You can't. The 14th never mentions 'political jurisdiction'. You do, citing yourself. And you're nobody.

Your imagination doesn't trump the clear wording of the 14th. And illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to the jurisdiction of the US, as the application of our laws demonstrate elegantly.
 
This is because we have the insane policy of "birthright citizenship". Congress never wrote a law creating this idiotic policy - FEDERAL JUDGES DID, even though the constitution says only congress can write laws!!

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists

jan 9 2017Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as "maternity hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

"It's not necessarily illegal to come here to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, that's visa fraud," said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations for Los Angeles.

I don't think you've read the 14th amendment. Here's the first sentence of it:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

That's why people born here are citizens....because the constitution says they are.


There is one exception: Children born to foreign diplomats posted in the US are not considered US citizens.

There are more than that. If an invading army was occupying US territory any of their children would not be US citizens either. As they wouldn't be subject to US law.

Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.
Anyone "invading" coming here illegally or with the intent of having a child that is a US citizen can be considered an invader.

Nope. The term is reserved specifically for invading armies. Soldiers of foreign governments seizing US territory in war.

Not those who are landscaping and flipping burgers. And certainly not tourists coming through customs at airports.

There's no rational interpretation of an illegal immigrant as a invading army. But quite a few irrational ones.
 
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Illegal immigrants are most definitely subject to US law. And consequently their children are US citizens at birth.

My gawd. Another moron who doesn't understand the difference between legal jurisdiction and political jurisdiction. !! Where do you idiots come from?
Huh? What other country has political jurisdiction on US soil? The US government is sovereign both legally and politically on US soil.
 

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