Fed. Appeals Ct: California can set tougher emission rules

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  1. Wonky Pundit
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    Not much spin on this decision - at least not yet. ;)

    "A U.S. federal appeals court has upheld California's right to set emission and air pollution standards for automobiles that exceed federal standards.

    Under the 1970 Clean Air Act, California can request waivers of federal standards to enact its own stricter laws, a right given to the state because it had its own pollution laws in effect before they federal government passed its laws..."

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    Given the problems they have with their cities in basins, that is a good decision.
     
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    This is going to be a tough one to enforce, given that crossing a state line is the same as walking across a street. I see several problems with this:

    If it is enforced only on cars sold in California you are basically creating a limited market, in effect banning certain cars from being sold in the state. What then happens if someone goes out of state to buy a car, and then brings it in and tries to register it? If you prevent them from doing it, you would then have to prevent people moving into the state from registering cars that do not meet the standards. Not doing so creates two "classes" of citizens, which is usually unconstitutional.

    I'm sure they won't try to ban any car not approved from driving in the state, as this would create a huge mess, but considering that cross state commerce is really unregulated, I forsee a huge enforcement problem.

    Also, i think car dealers in california will not be happy, as a person who wants a particular car may just drive to another state to get it.
     
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    Let's see if I got this right:

    State Laws can be tougher for air pollution.
    State Laws cannot be tougher for immigration.

    That about right?
     
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    It acutally has been enforced - sort of - every since it went into effect. The enforcement happens when you register a car from out of state.

    If that car hasn't been manufactured according to California emissions standards, you pay an extra fee. That's about it.
     
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    California has killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. they havent acknowledged it yet but they have turned themselves into at best a second world society. sooner or later reality will make them realize they cant afford looney leftist fantasies anymore. sad that
     
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    Extra fee is workable solution to the issue.
     
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    What does any of that have to do with emissions laws? Even if it's true? :eusa_eh:
     
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    Stricter rules = more expensive fuels.
     
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    Hooray for states rights!!

    Shame though.

    The cost of living in CA will go up. The price of new autos will not be funny and old ones will have to be 'fixed' to meet the newer tougher standards.
     
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