FBI director blames the internet

[BenNatuf]

The SCOTUS was ruling in a case wherein they needed to determine if a particular example of "free speech" was pornography. They ruled that they could tell the difference when they saw it but they could not define it.

meaning that obcenity is not speech. The decission was not whether a type of "free speech" was protected, it was whether obscenity was free speech at all.

And you aren't correcting me, you have no idea what you are talking about, and no idea what my "position" is.

I know exactly what I'm talking about... it is after all me talking. And You've made your position clear for anybody who can read to know.

Like I said speech can take the form of insurrection, conspiracy, pornography, child abuse, slander, criminal acts, incitement to riot etc.

restating this tripe over and over again will not make it any more true than it was the first time you spouted it.

All of which are prohibited, there are MANY exceptions to free speech.

there are very few, but we've already covered that

Just ask Julian Assange.

why would I want to ask that terroist aiding and abetting peice of shit anything? He's no different than tokyo rose. Nothing more than an agent handler of espionage in the spirit of the soviet spymasters. The only thing I can't figure out is why he ain't dead

 

[loosecannon]

That you have no idea what you are talking about. The director of the FBI and the Secretary of Homeland security are two different positions..

The FBI is a sub dept within the larger and more comprehensive Homeland security dept.

here is the opening sentence from the FBI homepage "about us" page:

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation—from international and domestic terrorists to spies on U.S. soil…from cyber villains to corrupt government officials…from mobsters to violent street gangs…from child predators to serial killers. Along the way, we help defend and uphold our nation’s economy, physical and electronic infrastructure, and democracy. Learn more about how we have evolved into a more proactive, threat-driven security agency in recent years.

FBI — About Us

enjoy your crow

Where does that say anything about keeping me, as opposed to the country, safe?

GAWD you are STUPID!

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

The VERY first sentence on their page.

If you are gonna continue to be stupid or obtuse beyond any reasonable degree please stop addressing me.

I have very low tolerance for complete fools in the first place and you are a particularly irritating idiot.

 

[loosecannon]

There are exceptions to free speech in this country, but you are completely wrong about what they are, or how many exist.

No actually I am aware of most of them.

But that isn't the point, they are myriad. Free speech is already highly regulated.

Try asking my daughter if she wants some candy and you will find out how free speech is. And isn't.

 

[loosecannon]

meaning that obcenity is not speech. The decission was not whether a type of "free speech" was protected, it was whether obscenity was free speech at all.

I know exactly what I'm talking about... it is after all me talking. And You've made your position clear for anybody who can read to know.

restating this tripe over and over again will not make it any more true than it was the first time you spouted it.

there are very few, but we've already covered that

why would I want to ask that terroist aiding and abetting peice of shit anything? He's no different than tokyo rose. Nothing more than an agent handler of espionage in the spirit of the soviet spymasters. The only thing I can't figure out is why he ain't dead

you are not capable of having this discussion.

There are myriad examples of speech that is not free. I listed about 8 examples, I win, big. You lose.

Case closed.

 

[uscitizen]

If speech is free why does Beck get paid so much for his?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

This is how it begins.

Next will be the 'general welfare' clause to pass laws against political speech.

Yup unfortunately it not Bush doing it so everything is honky dory.

 

[uscitizen]

I think the truth in advertising law should apply to political speeches and commentary.
this would go a long way to helping the problem.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

"If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U. S. membership in the U.N.; no gun control; and no foreign aid. We would have no welfare for big corporations, or the "poor"; No American troops in 100 foreign countries; no NAFTA, GATT, or "fast-track"; no arrogant federal judges usurping states rights; no attacks on private property; and no income tax. We can get rid of most of the cabinet departments, most of the agencies, and most of the budget. The government would be small, frugal, and limited." —CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Kinda hard to prove. Sort of like getting cancer, with so many various carcinogens around who is to say what or what combination of things caused it.
However if modifying our behaviour can likely make things better isn't that what improving ourselves as humans and Americans is all about?

All modifying our behavior will accomplish is that we will be left without anyone to blame when something like this happens. Not that we really have anyone to blame anyway, but only the intelligent among us realize it.

That seemed a bit circular...

So it is not Obama's fault?

And we should keep up our rude and fearmongering behaviour becuase we are blameless for it's possible results?
I just think we should be nicer because it is an improvement to be nicer.
As an atheist I have pretty much lived by the golden rule.
And not the rule of do it to others before they do it to you.

The only stuff I blame Obama for is the stuff he does, not what others do.

Do you think we should ban Mien Kampf because someone might read it and decide to start the 4th Reich? If you think we should all act nicer then feel free to start. I am usually nice myself, but there are times when being nice doesn't work.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The FBI is a sub dept within the larger and more comprehensive Homeland security dept.

here is the opening sentence from the FBI homepage "about us" page:

FBI — About Us

enjoy your crow

Where does that say anything about keeping me, as opposed to the country, safe?

GAWD you are STUPID!

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

The VERY first sentence on their page.

If you are gonna continue to be stupid or obtuse beyond any reasonable degree please stop addressing me.

I have very low tolerance for complete fools in the first place and you are a particularly irritating idiot.

It is a press release on a government sponsored web site. That sentence gives me three reasons to take it literally, all combined in one place. How am I stupid again?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

There are exceptions to free speech in this country, but you are completely wrong about what they are, or how many exist.

No actually I am aware of most of them.

But that isn't the point, they are myriad. Free speech is already highly regulated.

Try asking my daughter if she wants some candy and you will find out how free speech is. And isn't.

Another fail, why am I not surprised? Believe it or not, there would be nothing in any law that would make it illegal to ask your daughter if she wants some candy.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Liberal media making a big deal over a liberal/communist talking head parrot...

Keith Olbermann | Target | Stop Him | Mediaite

FBI “Looking Into” Death Threat Against Keith Olbermann Tony Gatto

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

 

[loosecannon]

It is a press release on a government sponsored web site. That sentence gives me three reasons to take it literally, all combined in one place. How am I stupid again?

Where does that say anything about keeping me, as opposed to the country, safe?

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

Asked and answered, and it proves you to be as stupid as is humanly possible.

Cease and desist if you insist on being obtuse beyond the pale.

 

[loosecannon]

There are exceptions to free speech in this country, but you are completely wrong about what they are, or how many exist.

No actually I am aware of most of them.

But that isn't the point, they are myriad. Free speech is already highly regulated.

Try asking my daughter if she wants some candy and you will find out how free speech is. And isn't.

Another fail, why am I not surprised? Believe it or not, there would be nothing in any law that would make it illegal to ask your daughter if she wants some candy.

you are far too stupid to be allowed to breed. Seriously. You are clearly truth adverse. You should consider medical help.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

No actually I am aware of most of them.

But that isn't the point, they are myriad. Free speech is already highly regulated.

Try asking my daughter if she wants some candy and you will find out how free speech is. And isn't.

Another fail, why am I not surprised? Believe it or not, there would be nothing in any law that would make it illegal to ask your daughter if she wants some candy.

you are far too stupid to be allowed to breed. Seriously. You are clearly truth adverse. You should consider medical help.

Just because Gunny thinks you got chops doesn't mean you do.

 

[loosecannon]

Another fail, why am I not surprised? Believe it or not, there would be nothing in any law that would make it illegal to ask your daughter if she wants some candy.

you are far too stupid to be allowed to breed. Seriously. You are clearly truth adverse. You should consider medical help.

Just because Gunny thinks you got chops doesn't mean you do.

Please! I don't care who thinks I have chops. Quantum windbag just engaged in the most futile possible debate one could ever fall into. He pawned himself to death.

Where does that say anything about keeping me, as opposed to the country, safe?

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

the fact that he came back and actually disputed the point after he had nailed himself to a cross and crucified himself is proof positive that he is insane.

 

[BenNatuf]

you are not capable of having this discussion.

There are myriad examples of speech that is not free. I listed about 8 examples, I win, big. You lose.

Case closed.

Laughable, you listed a bunch of crap that ain't speech. Simply naming a crime and calling it speech does not make it speech. Case closed? BWAHAHAHAHA....

 

[loosecannon]

Laughable, you listed a bunch of crap that ain't speech. Simply naming a crime and calling it speech does not make it speech. Case closed? BWAHAHAHAHA....

It was all speech, you are just stupid.

>Insurrection to revolution

>yelling fire in a crowded theater

>child abuse

>conspiracy

>criminal activity

>slander

>threatening a public official

>release of classified info

>pornography

>harassment

can all occur in the form of speech. And all of that and more is prohibited.

You not only lose the argument you lose so badly that your ass will forever burn.

Learn to shut up while you are only slightly behind.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

you are far too stupid to be allowed to breed. Seriously. You are clearly truth adverse. You should consider medical help.

Just because Gunny thinks you got chops doesn't mean you do.

Please! I don't care who thinks I have chops. Quantum windbag just engaged in the most futile possible debate one could ever fall into. He pawned himself to death.

Where does that say anything about keeping me, as opposed to the country, safe?

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

the fact that he came back and actually disputed the point after he had nailed himself to a cross and crucified himself is proof positive that he is insane.

So, that website is written specifically for me, and not aimed at everyone in the US. I am paranoid, and I do not believe that one. Maybe you should consider the fact that you and your are plural when used like they are in your quote, not singular.

Try again.

 

[loosecannon]

Just because Gunny thinks you got chops doesn't mean you do.

Please! I don't care who thinks I have chops. Quantum windbag just engaged in the most futile possible debate one could ever fall into. He pawned himself to death.

Our mission is to help protect you, your children, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation

the fact that he came back and actually disputed the point after he had nailed himself to a cross and crucified himself is proof positive that he is insane.

So, that website is written specifically for me, and not aimed at everyone in the US. I am paranoid, and I do not believe that one. Maybe you should consider the fact that you and your are plural when used like they are in your quote, not singular.

Try again.

epic fail.