False claims about 40 beheaded babies & 30 Harvard student groups condemning Israel may teach us how the US left, right & liberal process news

[Woodznutz]

They are brainwashed from almost birth to hate Jews. To them, just killing a Jew is an accomplishment. Palestinians are essentially a people with no land as they were expelled. So much hate on both sides but, Palestinians and their Hamas have (IMO) escalated to their own extinction event with this one.

The greater threat is that events like this will lead to Armageddon, as prophecied.

 

[Lesh]

Beheading children is s very serious charge and libs who support the arabs must deny it as long as possible

As yet no indisputable evidence has turned up so there is still hope for you

But it looks bad

The whole thing is a horror show

 

[Woodznutz]

A lot of this shit is bogus “X”(twitter) posts

Be careful what you bleve

Well as they say, truth is the first casualty of war.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Not only a terrorist sympathizer but unable to properly process the written word. The report was that IDF had removed 40 dead babies from a kibbutz some of which had been beheaded.

The IDF is not a reliable source. Far from it.

 

[Vel]

The IDF is not a reliable source. Far from it.

How about the picture from the DailyMail UK.. Hamas terrorists 'beheaded babies during kibbutz slaughter'

 

[Tommy Tainant]

How about the picture from the DailyMail UK.. Hamas terrorists 'beheaded babies during kibbutz slaughter'

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The Daily Heil is even less reliable. I could have taken that pic in my back yard,
The Mail was a huge supporter of Hitler.Now they hate muslims. Nothing changes does it ?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Daily Heil is even less reliable. I could have taken that pic in my back yard,
The Mail was a huge supporter of Hitler.Now they hate muslims. Nothing changes does it ?

you would deny even if presented in person with dead babies, you are a sick fuck.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

you would deny even if presented in person with dead babies, you are a sick fuck.

The IDF has been killing Palesinian babies for years without anything being said. And American journalists for the matter..
Sick fucks ignore that and focus on the retaliation.

 

[Lesh]

you would deny even if presented in person with dead babies, you are a sick fuck.

There’s little doubt that Hama savages have killed hundreds of civilians including children.

The claims of beheadings of babies sounds like piling on propaganda not unlike past wars (Germans bayoneting babies in Belgium during WW I).

 

[bripat9643]

As many have heard, a bizarre false claim has been made that HAMAS militants beheaded 40 babies in their counter-attacks against ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing and war crimes this past weekend.

Patently absurd on its face, the truth, while still tragic, is a different matter:

MSN

In keeping with Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian men, women and children which have left thousands upon thousands dead, it appears that as many as three dozen kibbutz inhabitants were murdered, a few as young as two.

While deeply sad, it pales in comparison to the vast multiples of this number of innocent Palestinians murdered by Israel.

But for the purpose of this thread, the most important aspect of the story from a group perception standpoint is that conservatives accepted at face value that 40 babies had been beheaded despite the absurdity of the claim, while liberals (and even more so the left) were far more (and correctly) skeptical.

Meanwhile, 30 student groups at the famously liberal/left-leaning Harvard have come out with stern condemnations of Israel's long history of behavior far worse and vastly more numerically lopsided than the terrible event noted above:

Cornel West on Harvard students blaming Israel: Largely right but lacking nuance

What these two stories have in common is that liberals, and to an even greater extent the left, appear far more inclined to ask questions which challenge pre-conceived narratives, prejudices, and supposed authorities rather than accepting alleged truths at face value.

Contrary to the conservative claim that liberals and the left are led more by feeling than fact, the reverse appears to be true.

In the case of the false baby beheading claim, conservatives allowed their pre-conceived notions of Muslim barbarism to quash the more logical path of skepticism and deeper research that liberals and the left followed.

And in the case of the endless cries of alleged "Unprovoked attacks on Israel!" by Palestinian groups, the highly educated students of Harvard looked long and hard at the ACTUAL long history of Israeli brutality, terrorism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and widespread civilian murder to conclude that Israel was in fact the longstanding aggressor, and had provided endless provocation over many decades.

Conservatives famously attack liberals and the left - often confusing the two - in an unending barrage of barbs pertaining to their alleged infantile and overly emotional response to events, but the opposite seems to often be the case.

Liberals and the left seem much more inclined to investigate, use logic and reason, and weigh numerous sources before drawing conclusions, whereas conservatives seem more inclined to trust arbitrary - and often untrustworthy - authority figures providing bad information which confirms their prior prejudices.

This is not to say that liberals and the left are immune from this behavior (see the eight year liberal witch hunt against Trump for instance), but rather that they seem less inclined to base their beliefs on feelings and pre-conceived notions than conservatives.

Is this something that is likely to change?

Is the difference the higher levels of education that liberals and the left tend to pursue?

Obviously all three groups have societal value, but this difference is quite glaring, and often disconcerting.

I saw witnesses testifying to the fact on video by several news broadcasters. I therefor choose to label that claim unconfirmed. I will never disregard a piece of news just because some Jew hating prog says I should.

 

[bripat9643]

The IDF has been killing Palesinian babies for years without anything being said. And American journalists for the matter..
Sick fucks ignore that and focus on the retaliation.

They never did it intentionally, jackass. Reuters and other prog news agencies have been caught lying about it multiple times.

 

[Lesh]

They never did it intentionally, jackass. Reuters and other prog news agencies have been caught lying about it multiple times.

They did it out of callous disregard.

Hardly better

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The IDF has been killing Palesinian babies for years without anything being said. And American journalists for the matter..
Sick fucks ignore that and focus on the retaliation.

Keep making excuses for the Hamas atrocities it so suits you.

 

[Lesh]

Keep making excuses for the Hamas atrocities it so suits you.

Both sides suck here.

It’s a shitshow all around

 

[BlindBoo]

As many have heard, a bizarre false claim has been made that HAMAS militants beheaded 40 babies in their counter-attacks against ongoing Israeli ethnic cleansing and war crimes this past weekend.

Patently absurd on its face, the truth, while still tragic, is a different matter:

MSN

In keeping with Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian men, women and children which have left thousands upon thousands dead, it appears that as many as three dozen kibbutz inhabitants were murdered, a few as young as two.

While deeply sad, it pales in comparison to the vast multiples of this number of innocent Palestinians murdered by Israel.

But for the purpose of this thread, the most important aspect of the story from a group perception standpoint is that conservatives accepted at face value that 40 babies had been beheaded despite the absurdity of the claim, while liberals (and even more so the left) were far more (and correctly) skeptical.

Meanwhile, 30 student groups at the famously liberal/left-leaning Harvard have come out with stern condemnations of Israel's long history of behavior far worse and vastly more numerically lopsided than the terrible event noted above:

Cornel West on Harvard students blaming Israel: Largely right but lacking nuance

What these two stories have in common is that liberals, and to an even greater extent the left, appear far more inclined to ask questions which challenge pre-conceived narratives, prejudices, and supposed authorities rather than accepting alleged truths at face value.

Contrary to the conservative claim that liberals and the left are led more by feeling than fact, the reverse appears to be true.

In the case of the false baby beheading claim, conservatives allowed their pre-conceived notions of Muslim barbarism to quash the more logical path of skepticism and deeper research that liberals and the left followed.

And in the case of the endless cries of alleged "Unprovoked attacks on Israel!" by Palestinian groups, the highly educated students of Harvard looked long and hard at the ACTUAL long history of Israeli brutality, terrorism, land theft, ethnic cleansing and widespread civilian murder to conclude that Israel was in fact the longstanding aggressor, and had provided endless provocation over many decades.

Conservatives famously attack liberals and the left - often confusing the two - in an unending barrage of barbs pertaining to their alleged infantile and overly emotional response to events, but the opposite seems to often be the case.

Liberals and the left seem much more inclined to investigate, use logic and reason, and weigh numerous sources before drawing conclusions, whereas conservatives seem more inclined to trust arbitrary - and often untrustworthy - authority figures providing bad information which confirms their prior prejudices.

This is not to say that liberals and the left are immune from this behavior (see the eight year liberal witch hunt against Trump for instance), but rather that they seem less inclined to base their beliefs on feelings and pre-conceived notions than conservatives.

Is this something that is likely to change?

Is the difference the higher levels of education that liberals and the left tend to pursue?

Obviously all three groups have societal value, but this difference is quite glaring, and often disconcerting.

How a shocking report on ’40 babies’ in Israel was deemed disinformation—before then being verified. That is the headline you linked too, btw.

"Reporting that Hamas killed at least 40 babies, including some that were allegedly beheaded, has stirred anger, confusion, and division online as the conflict between Israel and Palestine intensifies.

The report highlights the struggle with both accurate information and intentional misinformation on X as the platform has been beset by false claims in the past week."

 

[martybegan]

How many dead Syrian, Iraqi, Afghanistan, Libya babies did it take for the U.S. to be satisfied?

It's absolutely valid to condemn war. Not so much to condemn the very thing you do.

So The British and the French should have just rolled over and took it From Germany in 1939?

 

[bripat9643]

Both sides suck here.

It’s a shitshow all around

That's pure bullshit. Israel doesn't engage in cold blooded murder like Hamas.

 

[martybegan]

Both sides suck here.

It’s a shitshow all around

Only one side deliberately targets civilians as policy.

Take your equivalence and shove it up your probably well used and widened ass.

 

[bripat9643]

How a shocking report on ’40 babies’ in Israel was deemed disinformation—before then being verified. That is the headline you linked too, btw.

"Reporting that Hamas killed at least 40 babies, including some that were allegedly beheaded, has stirred anger, confusion, and division online as the conflict between Israel and Palestine intensifies.

The report highlights the struggle with both accurate information and intentional misinformation on X as the platform has been beset by false claims in the past week."

The fake news sites lie on a daily basis. Why should anyone trust them?

 

[BlindBoo]

The fake news sites lie on a daily basis. Why should anyone trust them?

Well we agree on something then. X is a vast disinformation hub.