Fairness

[Wiseacre]

That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.

 

[boedicca]

Real fairness means that we are treated equally under the law.

Anything else is a form of cronyism which is UNFAIR.

 

[Steelplate]

That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.

Fairness is a process... not an outcome.

Let me in return ask you a question.... How much is too much? How much money, power and influence is too much? What is the difference if Tyranny evolves from government(NAZI's, USSR, China, N. Korea, the Middle East).... or from Corporate Dominance?

Suppose one Company has enough money, power and influence to buy out every other company in the country... should we let them?

EDIT.... Step up and explain YOUR rationale.

 

[smartdonkey]

How about freedom from silly Straw-Man arguments like yours?

Fairness means "equal justice under law". Corporations and rich people must play by the same rules as everyone else.

 

[percysunshine]

Fairness is an illusion. When your sister gets the Barbie doll she wanted, and your big brother gets the bicycle he wanted, and you get the crappy 'nobody wants to play it' candycane slide board game...it is not fair.

Deal with it.

 

[Truthmatters]

as humans we can seek to make the world more fair.

Its a perfectly decent way to approch life.

Its really sad when people have to trash fairness to hang onto historically failed political ideas.

 

[smartdonkey]

as humans we can seek to make the world more fair.

Its a perfectly decent way to approch life.

Its really sad when people have to trash fairness to hang onto historically failed political ideas.

Clearly you didn't get the memo from the RNC. Fairness and empathy are works of The Debbil. But torture is good, it's vital!

 

[percysunshine]

as humans we can seek to make the world more fair.

Its a perfectly decent way to approch life.

Its really sad when people have to trash fairness to hang onto historically failed political ideas.

Shooting yourself in the foot in persuit of an imaginary phenomena is not decent.

 

[Truthmatters]

so there is nothing in the ideal of fairness that you find real?


Oh the founders would be so proud of you

 

[percysunshine]

so there is nothing in the ideal of fairness that you find real?


Oh the founders would be so proud of you

The only real part of persuing fairness, is knowing when to stop. In my opinion anyway.

 

[Lumpy 1]

and here's the political perspectives...

LIBERALS - believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need.

Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.

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CONSERVATIVES - believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

 

[WillowTree]

Where is thizzz land of unicorns?

 

[California Girl]

Is 'fair' a right in the Constitution? No. Game over.

 

[percysunshine]

and here's the political perspectives...

LIBERALS - believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need.

Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.

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CONSERVATIVES - believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

I thought we were discussing Christmas presents?

 

[bripat9643]

Fairness is a process... not an outcome.

No liberal believes that. They always judge fairness by outcomes.

Let me in return ask you a question.... How much is too much? How much money, power and influence is too much? What is the difference if Tyranny evolves from government(NAZI's, USSR, China, N. Korea, the Middle East).... or from Corporate Dominance?

You're just trying to weasel out of answering the question. Define fairness. That's the topic of this thread.

Suppose one Company has enough money, power and influence to buy out every other company in the country... should we let them?

How could that possibly happen? Now answer this question: how can you devise legislation to achieve "fairness" if you can't define the term?

EDIT.... Step up and explain YOUR rationale.

You're weaseling.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[JBeukema]

CONSERVATIVES

Tories? The KKK? Just how conservative are you?

There is no such ideology as 'Conservatism'. Conservatism is nothing more and nothing less than reastionism and the desire to preserve the status quo or return to the status quo ante.

traditional American values

Like slavery?

Like ethnic cleaning ans Manifest Destiny?

Like Segregation?

 

[Truthmatters]

Our government was invented to give us all a voice in what happens to us.

If we deside to not let people starve or die unattended from some disease than that is perfectly fine.

What boggles the mind is why so many of you find that to be some horrific crime.

 

[bripat9643]

How about freedom from silly Straw-Man arguments like yours?

Fairness means "equal justice under law". Corporations and rich people must play by the same rules as everyone else.

IN practice, liberal don't believe in that definition. The laws are equally enforced now, but libturds are still continually whining about "fairness."

 

[Wiseacre]

That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.

Fairness is a process... not an outcome.

Let me in return ask you a question.... How much is too much? How much money, power and influence is too much? What is the difference if Tyranny evolves from government(NAZI's, USSR, China, N. Korea, the Middle East).... or from Corporate Dominance?

Suppose one Company has enough money, power and influence to buy out every other company in the country... should we let them?

EDIT.... Step up and explain YOUR rationale.

I think you evaded my question; if it's a process then I take it you would control the process so that all outcomes are the same, or nearly so? Sure like to have some idea of how you think that would work. Can't be anything close to free enterprise, you wouldn't be promoting socialism or communism by any chance?

Of course you don't let one company buy out every other company, we do have monopoly laws you know. I do think our laws and regulations need to be scrubbed to ensure open competition, which I think is not as open as it should be. But at the same time not too onerous or expensive to comply with.

How much is too much? If a group of dumbfucks want to pay somebody tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, so be it. The profitability of their company is their business, not mine. If their product or service becomes too expensive or lacks quality, I'm going to buy something else or go without. If it's a public company and I'm a shareholder, I'm going to raise hell about it, but if they're profitable enough I don't care.

I'm going to give you the best advice you're going to get all day: stop worrying about what somebody else is getting and worry more about what you can do to improve your own lot in life or that of your family and community. Stop worrying about fairness, LIFE IS NOT FAIR AND NEVER WILL BE. Instead of worrying about redistributing wealth, work instead on improving equality under the law and opportunity in the marketplace.

 

[bripat9643]

as humans we can seek to make the world more fair.

Its a perfectly decent way to approch life.

Its really sad when people have to trash fairness to hang onto historically failed political ideas.

You still haven't defined the term.

You're weaseling just like every other libturd in this thread.