Fairness Quiz

[Skull Pilot]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

 

[Conservative]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

The Presidents answer: Yes, because I say so.

 

[Decepticon]

First world problems.

Oh noes...I'm a millionaire and my biggest worry is that I might not make as much money as I would before.

While you're whining about how most of the money from reporters goes to democrats, why don't you complain about the conservative bias in the banking and insurance industries while you're at it.

If more conservatives were in the journalism and teaching games, you wouldn't have a liberal bias in them, would you. But conservatives don't choose those professions because they require personal sacrifice and pay low-medium wages.

 

[rightwinger]

I, for one, feel sorry for all those millionaires who have to pay all those taxes on their income. Maybe if they didn't have such a disproportionate share of the income they wouldnt have to pay such a disproportionate share of the taxes

 

[auditor0007]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

The biggest problem with the argument of how much so and so pays in Federal Income Taxes is simply that Federal Income Taxes only account for around 40% of all Federal Revenues. When comparing to other countries, those statistics include total taxes, not just a smaller percentage of total taxes as you use in your example. The fact that you ignore payroll taxes completely creates an illusion that is not only unrealistic, it is a lie. Last of all, using statutory corporate tax rates rather than effective corporate tax rates is again very misleading. The fact is that the vast majority of American corporations have very low effective corporate tax rates. Just ask GE. And finally, you ignore the tax situation at the state level where the lowest income earners pay double to as much as four times the effective tax rate as the highest income earners in almost every state.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

Is it fair that most of what you've cited (source???) is not true, partly true and/or twisted to fit your agenda?

No, its not but that has never stopped a right winger before so I don't think it will now.

Its the rw way - keep telling the same lies over and over again ... keep throwing the same crap against the wall and some will most certainly stick.

 

[Valox]

It is not fair that the President preaches about fairness while stocking his administration with people who are very unfair.

A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama's executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven't paid any share, let alone their fair share.
As Obama demands rich Americans pay more in taxes, the IRS reveals 36 Obama aides are far behind in their taxes by Andrew Malcolm - Investors.com

oops.........

 

[Decepticon]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

The biggest problem with the argument of how much so and so pays in Federal Income Taxes is simply that Federal Income Taxes only account for around 40% of all Federal Revenues. When comparing to other countries, those statistics include total taxes, not just a smaller percentage of total taxes as you use in your example. The fact that you ignore payroll taxes completely creates an illusion that is not only unrealistic, it is a lie. Last of all, using statutory corporate tax rates rather than effective corporate tax rates is again very misleading. The fact is that the vast majority of American corporations have very low effective corporate tax rates. Just ask GE. And finally, you ignore the tax situation at the state level where the lowest income earners pay double to as much as four times the effective tax rate as the highest income earners in almost every state.

That was a real nice way of telling the OP that he's a liar.

 

[Foxfyre]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?

Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax?

Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?

Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools?

Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones?

Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes?

Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007?

Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats?

Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area?

Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"?

Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work?

Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?

Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?

Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office?

Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans?

Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs?

Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama?

Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?

Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them?

The biggest problem with the argument of how much so and so pays in Federal Income Taxes is simply that Federal Income Taxes only account for around 40% of all Federal Revenues. When comparing to other countries, those statistics include total taxes, not just a smaller percentage of total taxes as you use in your example. The fact that you ignore payroll taxes completely creates an illusion that is not only unrealistic, it is a lie. Last of all, using statutory corporate tax rates rather than effective corporate tax rates is again very misleading. The fact is that the vast majority of American corporations have very low effective corporate tax rates. Just ask GE. And finally, you ignore the tax situation at the state level where the lowest income earners pay double to as much as four times the effective tax rate as the highest income earners in almost every state.

The biggest problem with your argument is the assumption that GE is paying a lower corporate tax rate than any other corporation. It isn't. But GE is exporting or establishing all its profitable business and jobs to other countries that are more business friendly and keeping businesses for which it can show a loss (and therefore owe no taxes) here in the U.S.A.

Our fearless leader seems incapable of comprehending this, made GE's CEO one of his chief financial advisors re job creation, and seems oblivious to the situation that exists. And of course his surrogate mainstream media under reports it and will not challenge Obama on the hypocrisy involved.

The U.S.A. has the second highest, by a tiny fraction, corporate tax rate in the world and that, coupled with a business-unfriendly EPA, other excessive and unnecessary regulation, and the administration throwing unprecedented power to the unions is driving most of our manufacturing and other good paying jobs overseas.

Until we get a President and Congress that will address and correct this situation, we will continue to have a sluggish economy and unnecessarily high unemployment or underemployment rate with no light visible at the end of the tunnel.

Instead we have a President who is gung ho to promote policy that can only make it worse.

 

[auditor0007]

Stephen Moore: A Fairness Quiz for the President - WSJ.com

The biggest problem with the argument of how much so and so pays in Federal Income Taxes is simply that Federal Income Taxes only account for around 40% of all Federal Revenues. When comparing to other countries, those statistics include total taxes, not just a smaller percentage of total taxes as you use in your example. The fact that you ignore payroll taxes completely creates an illusion that is not only unrealistic, it is a lie. Last of all, using statutory corporate tax rates rather than effective corporate tax rates is again very misleading. The fact is that the vast majority of American corporations have very low effective corporate tax rates. Just ask GE. And finally, you ignore the tax situation at the state level where the lowest income earners pay double to as much as four times the effective tax rate as the highest income earners in almost every state.

The biggest problem with your argument is the assumption that GE is paying a lower corporate tax rate than any other corporation. It isn't. But GE is exporting or establishing all its profitable business and jobs to other countries that are more business friendly and keeping businesses for which it can show a loss (and therefore owe no taxes) here in the U.S.A.

Our fearless leader seems incapable of comprehending this, made GE's CEO one of his chief financial advisors re job creation, and seems oblivious to the situation that exists. And of course his surrogate mainstream media under reports it and will not challenge Obama on the hypocrisy involved.

The U.S.A. has the second highest, by a tiny fraction, corporate tax rate in the world and that, coupled with a business-unfriendly EPA, other excessive and unnecessary regulation, and the administration throwing unprecedented power to the unions is driving most of our manufacturing and other good paying jobs overseas.

Until we get a President and Congress that will address and correct this situation, we will continue to have a sluggish economy and unnecessarily high unemployment or underemployment rate with no light visible at the end of the tunnel.

Instead we have a President who is gung ho to promote policy that can only make it worse.

GRAPH: Contrary To GOP Claims, U.S. Has Second Lowest Corporate Taxes In The Developed World | ThinkProgress

 

[Skull Pilot]

I, for one, feel sorry for all those millionaires who have to pay all those taxes on their income. Maybe if they didn't have such a disproportionate share of the income they wouldnt have to pay such a disproportionate share of the taxes

Show me how if someone makes more than you that you actually make less.

It should be simple, right? After all, according to you there is but a finite amount of income. By the way what is the actual amount of income available right now that we must all share?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I, for one, feel sorry for all those millionaires who have to pay all those taxes on their income. Maybe if they didn't have such a disproportionate share of the income they wouldnt have to pay such a disproportionate share of the taxes

I feel sorry for all of us who have to contribute high taxes to a bloated federal government that spends with reckless abandon.

 

[rightwinger]

I, for one, feel sorry for all those millionaires who have to pay all those taxes on their income. Maybe if they didn't have such a disproportionate share of the income they wouldnt have to pay such a disproportionate share of the taxes

Show me how if someone makes more than you that you actually make less.

It should be simple, right? After all, according to you there is but a finite amount of income. By the way what is the actual amount of income available right now that we must all share?

Which has nothing to do with my post

The wealthy pay a disproportionate share of the taxes because they have a disproportionate share of the wealth

 

[Conservative]

The biggest problem with the argument of how much so and so pays in Federal Income Taxes is simply that Federal Income Taxes only account for around 40% of all Federal Revenues. When comparing to other countries, those statistics include total taxes, not just a smaller percentage of total taxes as you use in your example. The fact that you ignore payroll taxes completely creates an illusion that is not only unrealistic, it is a lie. Last of all, using statutory corporate tax rates rather than effective corporate tax rates is again very misleading. The fact is that the vast majority of American corporations have very low effective corporate tax rates. Just ask GE. And finally, you ignore the tax situation at the state level where the lowest income earners pay double to as much as four times the effective tax rate as the highest income earners in almost every state.

The biggest problem with your argument is the assumption that GE is paying a lower corporate tax rate than any other corporation. It isn't. But GE is exporting or establishing all its profitable business and jobs to other countries that are more business friendly and keeping businesses for which it can show a loss (and therefore owe no taxes) here in the U.S.A.

Our fearless leader seems incapable of comprehending this, made GE's CEO one of his chief financial advisors re job creation, and seems oblivious to the situation that exists. And of course his surrogate mainstream media under reports it and will not challenge Obama on the hypocrisy involved.

The U.S.A. has the second highest, by a tiny fraction, corporate tax rate in the world and that, coupled with a business-unfriendly EPA, other excessive and unnecessary regulation, and the administration throwing unprecedented power to the unions is driving most of our manufacturing and other good paying jobs overseas.

Until we get a President and Congress that will address and correct this situation, we will continue to have a sluggish economy and unnecessarily high unemployment or underemployment rate with no light visible at the end of the tunnel.

Instead we have a President who is gung ho to promote policy that can only make it worse.

GRAPH: Contrary To GOP Claims, U.S. Has Second Lowest Corporate Taxes In The Developed World | ThinkProgress

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2. United States

Combined Corporate Income Tax Rate: 39.21%
Current rate in place since: 2008
2010 forecasted GDP growth: +3.3%

Recent Rate Changes
Rates have fluctuated within the narrow range of 39.25% and 39.44% since 1998. The largest year-over-year changes since 1981 were 1986-1987 (49.8% to 44.2%) and 1987-1988 (44.2% to 38.6%).

 

[Skull Pilot]

I, for one, feel sorry for all those millionaires who have to pay all those taxes on their income. Maybe if they didn't have such a disproportionate share of the income they wouldnt have to pay such a disproportionate share of the taxes

Show me how if someone makes more than you that you actually make less.

It should be simple, right? After all, according to you there is but a finite amount of income. By the way what is the actual amount of income available right now that we must all share?

Which has nothing to do with my post

The wealthy pay a disproportionate share of the taxes because they have a disproportionate share of the wealth

Excuse me but you said the wealthy have a disproportionate share of income.

Which implies that there is only so much income to go around.

Now tell me exactly how much is that?

 

[rightwinger]

. Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

One of my favorites

What this really means is that the richest 10% of Americans have a larger share of available wealth than the rich in any other industrialized nation.......including Sweden

No other nation has done as much to ensure the well being of it's rich

 

[Conservative]

. Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

One of my favorites

What this really means is that the richest 10% of Americans have a larger share of available wealth than the rich in any other industrialized nation.......including Sweden

No other nation has done as much to ensure the well being of it's rich

wealth is finite?

how much is there?

 

[rightwinger]

Show me how if someone makes more than you that you actually make less.

It should be simple, right? After all, according to you there is but a finite amount of income. By the way what is the actual amount of income available right now that we must all share?

Which has nothing to do with my post

The wealthy pay a disproportionate share of the taxes because they have a disproportionate share of the wealth

Excuse me but you said the wealthy have a disproportionate share of income.

Which implies that there is only so much income to go around.

Now tell me exactly how much is that?

It implies no such thing

What it means is that in a given year the composite income of all Americans equalled some number. One group received the largest share of that income and justifiably paid the most taxes

It has nothing to do with what the composite income for next year will be.

 

[rightwinger]

. Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?

One of my favorites

What this really means is that the richest 10% of Americans have a larger share of available wealth than the rich in any other industrialized nation.......including Sweden

No other nation has done as much to ensure the well being of it's rich

wealth is finite?

how much is there?

At any given point in time, yes, wealth is finite. In this case we are talking wealth (actually income) at the end of a tax year

 

[Conservative]

Which has nothing to do with my post

The wealthy pay a disproportionate share of the taxes because they have a disproportionate share of the wealth

Excuse me but you said the wealthy have a disproportionate share of income.

Which implies that there is only so much income to go around.

Now tell me exactly how much is that?

It implies no such thing

What it means is that in a given year the composite income of all Americans equalled some number. One group received the largest share of that income and justifiably paid the most taxes

It has nothing to do with what the composite income for next year will be.

so you agree the wealthy pay enough taxes, based on their share of said wealth? Or is 'the most' still not fair enough for you?