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none of that is relevant to Lysanias dying in 35bc and Herod in 4bc forcing the move back date of Jesus to 6bc still missing Lysanias era by decades......
Whose graven image why none other then Jesus that is placed not only in their houses of worship but over their beds and around their necks) I will make thy grave; for thou art vile.
.there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
.there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Birds of a feather flock together..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
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in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind...
..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
mm
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind...
the book of forgeries and fallacies obscures the truths of its recordings for uses by their false religion to reconstitute their meaning for what purposes are beneficial for them the same as all the documents of the desert religions - as have stated, there never were etched tablets by the Almighty as claimed by the jews through moses. in their book.
just supposing an illuminated star did bring to the location travelers of high regard to the birth of a certain person as factual is a significant recording and an opening scene as a sign from the metaphysical for future events that did occur. the attempted restoration of the religion of antiquity, liberation theology (generic) and the means for a freed spirit's admission to the Everlasting.
Birds of a feather flock together..there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
...there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
mm
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind...
the book of forgeries and fallacies obscures the truths of its recordings for uses by their false religion to reconstitute their meaning for what purposes are beneficial for them the same as all the documents of the desert religions - as have stated, there never were etched tablets by the Almighty as claimed by the jews through moses. in their book.
just supposing an illuminated star did bring to the location travelers of high regard to the birth of a certain person as factual is a significant recording and an opening scene as a sign from the metaphysical for future events that did occur. the attempted restoration of the religion of antiquity, liberation theology (generic) and the means for a freed spirit's admission to the Everlasting.
sorry folks it seems clear to me that CONSTANTINE
had an agenda when it came to christianity (and maybe paul and a few other people) WORLD RELIGION. Way back then all of Persia was ZOROASTRIAN and that religion also was in competition (of a sort---at least demographically, with Buddhism) to the east. The THREE WISE GUYS legend
was a draw gimmick. In fact the entire ---born in a
stable story, IMHO, is contrived. Does anyone know out there amongst us cyberbuddies. ----re census----
were there MASS population shifts to the "ancestral lands" ???
.oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
.A bastard born out of wedding relations with a foreign Roman soldier is "liberation theology".
And the death of the bastard is "tragedy" in spite being the whole point of his mythological status.
...there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
mm
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind...
the book of forgeries and fallacies obscures the truths of its recordings for uses by their false religion to reconstitute their meaning for what purposes are beneficial for them the same as all the documents of the desert religions - as have stated, there never were etched tablets by the Almighty as claimed by the jews through moses. in their book.
just supposing an illuminated star did bring to the location travelers of high regard to the birth of a certain person as factual is a significant recording and an opening scene as a sign from the metaphysical for future events that did occur. the attempted restoration of the religion of antiquity, liberation theology (generic) and the means for a freed spirit's admission to the Everlasting.
sorry folks it seems clear to me that CONSTANTINE
had an agenda when it came to christianity (and maybe paul and a few other people) WORLD RELIGION. Way back then all of Persia was ZOROASTRIAN and that religion also was in competition (of a sort---at least demographically, with Buddhism) to the east. The THREE WISE GUYS legend
was a draw gimmick. In fact the entire ---born in a
stable story, IMHO, is contrived. Does anyone know out there amongst us cyberbuddies. ----re census----
were there MASS population shifts to the "ancestral lands" ???
.oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
that is the setting for the future events to learn from their ingratitude, not to repeat them - iro 91.
.
.A bastard born out of wedding relations with a foreign Roman soldier is "liberation theology".
And the death of the bastard is "tragedy" in spite being the whole point of his mythological status.
yes, that is the point that for the centuries since has been your downfall, the desert religions and the separation from the Almighty's truly chosen example. for the cohesion necessary for an enlightened humanity.
...there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
mm
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind.....there was ABSOLUTELY no reason for Mary to go to Bethlehem even if it was the ancestral land of Joseph. In those days and for thousands of years--PREGNANT jewish girls had their babies in the houses of their MOTHERS or other female relatives. They did not go off on a donkey on a long arduous journey whilst "HEAVY WITH CHILD" ---to unknown accommodations and no female relatives.
That part of the story never made sense to me.
so are the brave, mary.
they were itinerants, as was jesus to follow surly not the clan type of their prototype jewish culture. then or now.
Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
.Trying to conceal a bastard's identity is not bravery.
no, they were not trying to conceal anything - your complaint is with the crucifiers and their 4th century fallacies they used to ingratiate themselves at the itinerants expense.
.
View attachment 387890
.
in fact they were blessed in their travel by three wise men guided by a star in the heavens.
the opening scene in itself is the liberation theology of innocence the 1st century was to witness before its tragic conclusion in darkness. by the sinners.
.When you try to be all things to all people’s and tell a tall tale you always end up tripping over your lies.... Your good book the New Testament does not specifically mention three wise men.. It uses possibly plural as in more then one but not three specifically.. Keep that in mind...
the book of forgeries and fallacies obscures the truths of its recordings for uses by their false religion to reconstitute their meaning for what purposes are beneficial for them the same as all the documents of the desert religions - as have stated, there never were etched tablets by the Almighty as claimed by the jews through moses. in their book.
just supposing an illuminated star did bring to the location travelers of high regard to the birth of a certain person as factual is a significant recording and an opening scene as a sign from the metaphysical for future events that did occur. the attempted restoration of the religion of antiquity, liberation theology (generic) and the means for a freed spirit's admission to the Everlasting.
sorry folks it seems clear to me that CONSTANTINE
had an agenda when it came to christianity (and maybe paul and a few other people) WORLD RELIGION. Way back then all of Persia was ZOROASTRIAN and that religion also was in competition (of a sort---at least demographically, with Buddhism) to the east. The THREE WISE GUYS legend
was a draw gimmick. In fact the entire ---born in a
stable story, IMHO, is contrived. Does anyone know out there amongst us cyberbuddies. ----re census----
were there MASS population shifts to the "ancestral lands" ???
.oh--you believe that BS too........ ---they stopped at a MOTEL and the nasty jew who owned the motel told them "UP YOURS"
that is the setting for the future events to learn from their ingratitude, not to repeat them - iro 91.
.
.A bastard born out of wedding relations with a foreign Roman soldier is "liberation theology".
And the death of the bastard is "tragedy" in spite being the whole point of his mythological status.
yes, that is the point that for the centuries since has been your downfall, the desert religions and the separation from the Almighty's truly chosen example. for the cohesion necessary for an enlightened humanity.
