Weatherman2020
Diamond Member
Critics will still be critics, but this performance has opened up a lot of important eyes at the Airshow.
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Dogfights are a thing of the past because the US has total domination in air warfare.40,000 pounds of thrust. Oh baby.
Dogfights are a thing of the past because the US has total domination in air warfare.
. Right now we do, but things these days can change so rapidly. Hope we can stay ahead of the game, but Russia and China will be the ones to watch now.Dogfights are a thing of the past because the US has total domination in air warfare.40,000 pounds of thrust. Oh baby.
. Could come down to the dog fight after all counter messures are exhasted or expended. Would be a fluke these days though.All that aerial acrobatics looks extremely impressive at air shows, and really wows the crowd.
But is totally useless in todays aerial engagements. .....
I wonder if the F35 has spell check. Could come down to the dog fight after all counter messures are exhasted or expended. Would be a fluke these days though.All that aerial acrobatics looks extremely impressive at air shows, and really wows the crowd.
But is totally useless in todays aerial engagements. .....
Actually it is even more useful. When either an IR or radar air to air missile is coming at you at Mach 3-5, rapid movements and use of decoys would make hits virtually impossible.All that aerial acrobatics looks extremely impressive at air shows, and really wows the crowd.
But is totally useless in todays aerial engagements. .....
What's the cost if Russia or China decide they want to go to war with us because they feel we are weak?The price of the F-35 is over $600 million per aircraft. The total cost for the entire fleet of F-35's plus maintenance costs during its operational life span, is expected to be 1.5 trillion dollars. .....
Maybe ....Actually it is even more useful. When either an IR or radar air to air missile is coming at you at Mach 3-5, rapid movements and use of decoys would make hits virtually impossible.
You misquote them. They felt close air engagements were a thing of the past because missiles had just come out. What I am referring to is the small number of air engagements the past 40 years and who keeps coming out on top.The experts prior to Vietnam also said the age of the dogfight was over. The F-4 was delivered without a gun because "missiles made dogfighting obsolete".
There have always been times and there may always be times when you can't get clearance to take a BVR shot. You'll have to close for visual ID before being cleared to shoot. And if you can see the bad guy, he can see you. And there's your fur ball.
This Vietnam era F-4 thing comes up every once in awhile, but it is a terrible comparison. That was in an age when most kills were still by the gun, and AIM-7 was a relatively new missile that had poor performance against fighters since designed to take out Soviet bombers and required the aircraft to maintain nose to target.The experts prior to Vietnam also said the age of the dogfight was over. The F-4 was delivered without a gun because "missiles made dogfighting obsolete".
There have always been times and there may always be times when you can't get clearance to take a BVR shot. You'll have to close for visual ID before being cleared to shoot. And if you can see the bad guy, he can see you. And there's your fur ball.
Wow you lived through both F-4s without guns and modern air combat shooting AIM-120s? Quite the career span.