Explosions in Kiev?

[Procrustes Stretched]

where is the thread?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Fires, violence, explosions what a friggin' shame. The government will have to respond

 

[Victory67]

Very sad.

 

[jon_berzerk]

where is the thread?

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

 

[Victory67]

I don't want Ukraine to be slaves to EU membership and the Euro, but they also need to not be under the bootheal of Russian Imperialism.

 

[jon_berzerk]

live

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4#t=1368065]Espreso TV - LIVE - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

where is the thread?

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Why did police storm camp?

 

[L.K.Eder]

klitschko vs. janukowitsch, soon.

 

[Victory67]

where is the thread?

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Why did police storm camp?

Isn't obvious? The camp and protestors are a pain in the ass to authoritarian-like control.

Kind of like how the Colonialists were a pain in the ass to King George.

 

[L.K.Eder]

where is the thread?

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Why did police storm camp?

they were given orders.

obviously a bad call.

 

[CaféAuLait]

Fires, violence, explosions what a friggin' shame. The government will have to respond

Its being reported at least 14 dead. Its being reported as well that protesters set fire to ruling party's headquarters.

At least 14 dead in fiery Kiev protests | News - Home

 

[Victory67]

The danger is that apparently the USA and Ukraine both signed a treaty in the 1990s that they would maintain the security and integrity of Ukraine. Putin could use this to justify sending in troops to end the rebellion.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Why did police storm camp?

Isn't obvious? The camp and protestors are a pain in the ass to authoritarian-like control.

Kind of like how the Colonialists were a pain in the ass to King George.

Huh? No comparison. The colonists used every means possible to peacefully resolve the issues. The American colonists did not start out rebelling for a break with England. The 'revolutionaries' weren't very revolutionary or reactionary until the situation forced a choice

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The danger is that apparently the USA and Ukraine both signed a treaty in the 1990s that they would maintain the security and integrity of Ukraine. Putin could use this to justify sending in troops to end the rebellion.

The Russians should have signed one and that would give them reason. Russians do not want to provoke a showdown over that.

you really need to stop being so alarmists and silly

 

[Victory67]

The danger is that apparently the USA and Ukraine both signed a treaty in the 1990s that they would maintain the security and integrity of Ukraine. Putin could use this to justify sending in troops to end the rebellion.

The Russians should have signed one and that would give them reason. Russians do not want to provoke a showdown over that.

you really need to stop being so alarmists and silly

A senior aid to Putin has already stated that he might be forced to send in troops to deal with the situation.

Putin aide warns U.S. on Ukraine, says Russia could act

 

[Vox]

where is the thread?

Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Ukrainian police are storming the main anti-government protest camp in the capital, Kiev, after months of occupation.

Explosions are taking place, fireworks are being thrown and large fires have broken out in Independence Square, known locally as the Maidan.

Police have deployed water cannon.

During the day, at least 13 people were killed, including six policemen, as protesters and security forces clashed in the worst violence in weeks

BBC News - Ukraine police storm main Kiev 'Maidan' protest camp

Why did police storm camp?

becasue they are criminals and slaves of the "golden toilet" ( that's one of the nicknames of the regime and personally the felon president).

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The danger is that apparently the USA and Ukraine both signed a treaty in the 1990s that they would maintain the security and integrity of Ukraine. Putin could use this to justify sending in troops to end the rebellion.

The Russians should have signed one and that would give them reason. Russians do not want to provoke a showdown over that.

you really need to stop being so alarmists and silly

A senior aid to Putin has already stated that he might be forced to send in troops to deal with the situation.

Putin aide warns U.S. on Ukraine, says Russia could act

Thought you were saying Putin would use US/Ukraine treaty as an excuse. People here often say crazy things

 

[Victory67]

The Russians should have signed one and that would give them reason. Russians do not want to provoke a showdown over that.

you really need to stop being so alarmists and silly

A senior aid to Putin has already stated that he might be forced to send in troops to deal with the situation.

Putin aide warns U.S. on Ukraine, says Russia could act

Thought you were saying Putin would use US/Ukraine treaty as an excuse. People here often say crazy things

"Sergei Glazyev, an adviser to President Vladimir Putin with responsibility for relations with Ukraine, told a newspaper that U.S. "interference" breached the 1994 treaty under which Washington and Moscow jointly guaranteed Ukraine's security and sovereignty after Kiev gave up its Soviet-era nuclear arsenal."

 

[L.K.Eder]

this calls for a salomonic judgment. ukraine will be split. the western part associates with the EU, the eastern part merges with putinistan. give the population 4 weeks to relocate if desired, a la punjab. should go down swimmingly.

 

[Vox]

The danger is that apparently the USA and Ukraine both signed a treaty in the 1990s that they would maintain the security and integrity of Ukraine. Putin could use this to justify sending in troops to end the rebellion.

The Russians should have signed one and that would give them reason. Russians do not want to provoke a showdown over that.

you really need to stop being so alarmists and silly

A senior aid to Putin has already stated that he might be forced to send in troops to deal with the situation.

Putin aide warns U.S. on Ukraine, says Russia could act

that's just standard Russian fairy tales for their stupid people.
Putin can't see Russia not being an empire.
He wants the USSR back to where it was - a variation of russian empire.
Ukraine and all others - do not.

US is irrelevant as is EU.