Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity

[fanger]

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

 

[Ringel05]

Good for her and whomever granted her diplomatic immunity from clueless, brain dead activist law manipulators.

 

[Challenger]

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

Pay the Tories enough and you can get away with murder, just look at Pinochet. Makes you ashamed to be British.

 

[Phoenall]

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

 

[Phoenall]

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

Pay the Tories enough and you can get away with murder, just look at Pinochet. Makes you ashamed to be British.

Give your neo Marxists a handful of votes and they will give you every 12 year old girl in the country as your sex skaves

 

[fanger]

Why bring that thought up, Fattima?

 

[Lipush]

It would have been incredibly Ironic if Livni would have been blamed for war crimes, considering she's a leftist who called Netanyahoo "Radical". Fact that some are after her, of all people, speaks volumes. IF she was exposed to this maybe it would have snapped her out of the bubble that we can speak with our haters.

 

[José]

It would have been incredibly Ironic if Livni would have been blamed for war crimes, considering she's a leftist who called Netanyahoo "Radical".

Israeli-Arabs are reacting with outrage with Foreign Minister and frontrunner for premiership Tzipi Livni’s call for Arab citizens to leave Israel and move into the new Palestinian state.

Livni, the leader of the centrist Kadima party who hopes to become prime minister after the February 10 polls, said Thursday that Israeli-Arabs should move to the new Palestinian state when it is created.

"And among other things I will also be able to approach the Palestinian residents of Israel, those whom we call Arab Israelis, and tell them: ‘your national aspirations lie elsewhere.’"

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/this-land-is-ours-say-israeli-arabs/?print=pdf

 

[José]

This is what pass for "leftism" in Israel.

 

[RoccoR]

fanger, et al,

Who issued an arrest warrant?

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

(COMMENT)

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has not indicted anyone since November 2013. And the ICC has not issued a warrant based on an indictment since that time. Second, what UN report are you talking about? Are you talking about the UNHRC Report? There has been no international criminal investigative report issued relative to Israel-Palestine issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[fanger]

under the 1988 Justice Act, which gives courts in England and Wales universal jurisdiction in war crimes cases.


British court issued Gaza arrest warrant for former Israeli minister Tzipi Livni World news The Guardian

 

[Phoenall]

fanger, et al,

Who issued an arrest warrant?

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

(COMMENT)

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has not indicted anyone since November 2013. And the ICC has not issued a warrant based on an indictment since that time. Second, what UN report are you talking about? Are you talking about the UNHRC Report? There has been no international criminal investigative report issued relative to Israel-Palestine issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

We have a system whereby a private summons can be brought. So if the court decides that there is a case to answer they issue the summons and the paid police serves it on the individual. There is no powers of arrest involved and the individual can ignore the summons if they wish, but the case can proceed without the defendant. Neo Marxists and islamonazis have tried to use it before to implicate Jewish politicians in war crimes and failed. This is why the islamonazis claim that Jewish politicians have been found guilty of war crimes, when the truth is they were summonsed to answer charges brought privately. The costs of such cases are bourne by ambulance chasers and the insurance companies. The UK government have closed the loophole allowing such cases to be brought and no win no fee lawyers are after changing the law back.

 

[Lipush]

It would have been incredibly Ironic if Livni would have been blamed for war crimes, considering she's a leftist who called Netanyahoo "Radical".

Israeli-Arabs are reacting with outrage with Foreign Minister and frontrunner for premiership Tzipi Livni’s call for Arab citizens to leave Israel and move into the new Palestinian state.

Livni, the leader of the centrist Kadima party who hopes to become prime minister after the February 10 polls, said Thursday that Israeli-Arabs should move to the new Palestinian state when it is created.

"And among other things I will also be able to approach the Palestinian residents of Israel, those whom we call Arab Israelis, and tell them: ‘your national aspirations lie elsewhere.’"

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/this-land-is-ours-say-israeli-arabs/?print=pdf

"Livni.... Leader of Kadima party...."

LOL, you have someone which is more relevant to this century, Jose?

 

[RoccoR]

fanger, et al,

So that is very interesting.

Who issued an arrest warrant?

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

(COMMENT)

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has not indicted anyone since November 2013. And the ICC has not issued a warrant based on an indictment since that time. Second, what UN report are you talking about? Are you talking about the UNHRC Report? There has been no international criminal investigative report issued relative to Israel-Palestine issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

We have a system whereby a private summons can be brought. So if the court decides that there is a case to answer they issue the summons and the paid police serves it on the individual. There is no powers of arrest involved and the individual can ignore the summons if they wish, but the case can proceed without the defendant. Neo Marxists and islamonazis have tried to use it before to implicate Jewish politicians in war crimes and failed. This is why the islamonazis claim that Jewish politicians have been found guilty of war crimes, when the truth is they were summonsed to answer charges brought privately. The costs of such cases are bourne by ambulance chasers and the insurance companies. The UK government have closed the loophole allowing such cases to be brought and no win no fee lawyers are after changing the law back.

(COMMENT)

In this system, what does the prosecutor have to prove to the court in order to win a case. In the case of a War Crime in the ICC, they must prove the elements to the offense:

Article 8 (2) (a) (i) War crime of willful killing
Elements

1. The perpetrator killed one or more persons.31
2. Such person or persons were protected under one or more of the Geneva Conventions of 1949.
3. The perpetrator was aware of the factual circumstances that established that protected status.32, 33
4. The conduct took place in the context of and was associated with an international armed conflict.34

Footnotes:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
31 The term “killed” is interchangeable with the term “caused death”. This footnote applies to all elements which use either of these concepts.
32 This mental element recognizes the interplay between articles 30 and 32. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a), and to the element in other crimes in article 8 (2) concerning the awareness of factual circumstances that establish the status of persons or property protected under the relevant international law of armed conflict.
33 With respect to nationality, it is understood that the perpetrator needs only to know that the victim belonged to an adverse party to the conflict. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a).
34 The term “international armed conflict” includes military occupation. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a).​

Under this system, if the charge is brought and they fail to prove the case, what is the penalty for the frivolous accuser?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

fanger, et al,

So that is very interesting.

Who issued an arrest warrant?

Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni was granted diplomatic immunity by the British government during a visit to the UK this week to avoid possible arrest over alleged war crimes.

The Zionist Union politician was attending the Fortune Most Powerful Women International Summit in London, where she spoke on the Israeli political climate and the future of Israel and Palestine.

Livni was able to qualify for legal immunity by arranging meetings with British officials, exploiting a legal loophole that protects Israelis on official visits to the UK.

Ex-Israeli foreign minister avoids Gaza war crimes arrest thanks to UK diplomatic immunity RT UK

scared of being tried?

(COMMENT)

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has not indicted anyone since November 2013. And the ICC has not issued a warrant based on an indictment since that time. Second, what UN report are you talking about? Are you talking about the UNHRC Report? There has been no international criminal investigative report issued relative to Israel-Palestine issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

We have a system whereby a private summons can be brought. So if the court decides that there is a case to answer they issue the summons and the paid police serves it on the individual. There is no powers of arrest involved and the individual can ignore the summons if they wish, but the case can proceed without the defendant. Neo Marxists and islamonazis have tried to use it before to implicate Jewish politicians in war crimes and failed. This is why the islamonazis claim that Jewish politicians have been found guilty of war crimes, when the truth is they were summonsed to answer charges brought privately. The costs of such cases are bourne by ambulance chasers and the insurance companies. The UK government have closed the loophole allowing such cases to be brought and no win no fee lawyers are after changing the law back.

(COMMENT)

In this system, what does the prosecutor have to prove to the court in order to win a case. In the case of a War Crime in the ICC, they must prove the elements to the offense:

Article 8 (2) (a) (i) War crime of willful killing
Elements

1. The perpetrator killed one or more persons.31
2. Such person or persons were protected under one or more of the Geneva Conventions of 1949.
3. The perpetrator was aware of the factual circumstances that established that protected status.32, 33
4. The conduct took place in the context of and was associated with an international armed conflict.34

Footnotes:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
31 The term “killed” is interchangeable with the term “caused death”. This footnote applies to all elements which use either of these concepts.
32 This mental element recognizes the interplay between articles 30 and 32. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a), and to the element in other crimes in article 8 (2) concerning the awareness of factual circumstances that establish the status of persons or property protected under the relevant international law of armed conflict.
33 With respect to nationality, it is understood that the perpetrator needs only to know that the victim belonged to an adverse party to the conflict. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a).
34 The term “international armed conflict” includes military occupation. This footnote also applies to the corresponding element in each crime under article 8 (2) (a).​

Under this system, if the charge is brought and they fail to prove the case, what is the penalty for the frivolous accuser?

Most Respectfully,
R

They only have to show that they issued an order or took part in a crime during armed conflict. If the Judge decides such a crime did take place he/she can impose a compensation on the culprit. Most times the value is of one penny as it is just a moral victory.

They lose the case and can be made to pay the defendants costs.

These cases are what is known as civil law in the UK and have no real criminality involved, much like compensation claims for injuries suffered at work or when driving. No stigma attached just the waste of time going backwards and forwards to court only to see the case adjourned yet again.

No jury in these cases just the Judge or a panel of Judges

 

[Challenger]

British courts tend not to issue arrest warrants like confetti. The person bringing the action has to demonstrate to the court's satisfaction that there is enough evidence against the subject of the warrant for a case to be made and answered.

 

[Daniyel]

This is what pass for "leftism" in Israel.

If there is anyone ever willing to negotiate with Abbas (RW) it is Livni, so apparently you are holding the wrong scope here - we are talking about negotiating with RW Fatah chairman that is unwilling to establish a Palestinian state, Livni is a radical RW, despite being a socialist thou.

 

[José]

I'm afraid you didn't fully understand the meaning of my post, Danyel.

What I tried to say was this:

An American politician who slightly hinted at the possibility of encouraging the african american population to move to Liberia or a separate "black homeland" in the US to eliminate any potential threat to the white majority would be immediately labelled the spawn of Adolf Hitler by virtually the entire country.

In Israel, Livni, who made a similar statement, is considered (by Lipush at least) a "leftist".

The mere fact that any person in her right mind can even remotely consider Tzipora Livni a "leftist" (as far as the IP conflict is concerned) speaks volumes about the unbelievable level of dehumanization of the arab people of Palestine in Israel.

 

[José]

A dehumanization that is only rivaled (or even surpassed) by the one found in the United States.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm afraid you didn't fully understand the meaning of my post, Danyel.

What I tried to say was this:

An American politician who slightly hinted at the possibility of encouraging the african american population to move to Liberia or a separate "black homeland" in the US to eliminate any potential threat to the white majority would be immediately labelled the spawn of Adolf Hitler by virtually the entire country.

In Israel, Livni, who made a similar statement, is considered (by Lipush at least) a "leftist".

The mere fact that any person in her right mind can even remotely consider Tzipora Livni a "leftist" (as far as the IP conflict is concerned) speaks volumes about the unbelievable level of dehumanization of the arab people of Palestine in Israel.

In the UK "leftists" believe that muslims should be allowed to rape 12 year old girls and sell them into prostitution in return for a few votes. Each nation has its own definition of what a "leftists" is