johngaltshrugged
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Did you know 120 years ago when cars were still a novelty, 3 different technologies vied for dominance?
These were:
1) Steam- the most popular because they understood the technology
2) EV's- more reliable & safer than the others
3) ICE- least popular until the Model T
I've made it clear that I know AWG is a scam for the low IQ, the Green New Deal is a pipedream for the low info & current EV's are a virtue signal for the wokesters.
That said, I would CONSIDER switching over once all of these serious issues are adequately addressed:
A) The price is the same as a comparable ICE. Right now they are around 2x's more expensive.
B) Same performance as a comparable ICE. Same range, same power, same maintenance. If my ICE engine can get 300K miles from it, the batteries on the EV have to last at least that long.
They are nowhere close to meeting these parameters.
C) Same infrastructure for them as for ICE. Same number of power sources, the power lines & connections needed to charge & vastly expanded power plant numbers to provide the energy necessary.
That alone will take decades.
We have no capacity to produce the batteries necessary for this magical transition so trying to force it will result in tragedy for the most vulnerable as our supply chains grind to a halt, inflation soars, the economy crashes & famine hits the masses around the world.
We are decades & major leaps in technology plus massive infrastructure away from making this EV fantasy come to life.
Right about the beginning of the 20th century, horseless carriages were emerging as novelties, transports for the rich, and quickly adopted as necessities for doctors making urgent home visits.
Three forms of automobile engines vied in that era for dominance: electric, steam, and gasoline.
Experiments with battery-powered wagons had taken place in Europe and the United States from at least the 1830s, notes a history of electric cars compiled by the U.S. Department of Energy.
Des Moines, Iowa, chemist William Morrison is credited with the first successful EV in the U.S. In 1890 his 14-passenger wagon could go 14 mph. The concept quickly caught on and within a few years, New York had 60 electric taxis scooting about.
Steam was also considered because, given its decades-long success on railroads and in marine and industrial applications, it was familiar and tested. In fact, in 1899, it was the most popular form of automobile propulsion with 1,681 units recorded.
But one could not just jump in a steam car and go – it could take perhaps 45 minutes to raise the needed steam pressure and there would be frequent stops to replenish the water supply.
Gasoline engines were noisy, smelly, and could even be dangerous to start since required hand cranking could misfire the engine and possibly break an arm.
As a result, electric vehicles increased in popularity and, depending on sources, at the beginning of the 20th century, battery-powered electric motors propelled between 28 and 37 percent of all U.S. automobiles.
Electrics were ideal for urban environments where there was a dense network of city streets. EVs ran clean and quiet and had generally good access to recharging via the urban electrical grid. Their limited range presented few problems in local city driving.
Also, because they required no boiler firing or hand cranking of engines, their simplicity of operation made EVs popular with women, according to Quartz.
But several developments brought the soon demise of the EV. First was price — Henry Ford introduced the Model T in 1908 and four years later it sold for an unheard of $650 compared to an electric car at $1,750.
These were:
1) Steam- the most popular because they understood the technology
2) EV's- more reliable & safer than the others
3) ICE- least popular until the Model T
I've made it clear that I know AWG is a scam for the low IQ, the Green New Deal is a pipedream for the low info & current EV's are a virtue signal for the wokesters.
That said, I would CONSIDER switching over once all of these serious issues are adequately addressed:
A) The price is the same as a comparable ICE. Right now they are around 2x's more expensive.
B) Same performance as a comparable ICE. Same range, same power, same maintenance. If my ICE engine can get 300K miles from it, the batteries on the EV have to last at least that long.
They are nowhere close to meeting these parameters.
C) Same infrastructure for them as for ICE. Same number of power sources, the power lines & connections needed to charge & vastly expanded power plant numbers to provide the energy necessary.
That alone will take decades.
We have no capacity to produce the batteries necessary for this magical transition so trying to force it will result in tragedy for the most vulnerable as our supply chains grind to a halt, inflation soars, the economy crashes & famine hits the masses around the world.
We are decades & major leaps in technology plus massive infrastructure away from making this EV fantasy come to life.
Right about the beginning of the 20th century, horseless carriages were emerging as novelties, transports for the rich, and quickly adopted as necessities for doctors making urgent home visits.
Three forms of automobile engines vied in that era for dominance: electric, steam, and gasoline.
Experiments with battery-powered wagons had taken place in Europe and the United States from at least the 1830s, notes a history of electric cars compiled by the U.S. Department of Energy.
Des Moines, Iowa, chemist William Morrison is credited with the first successful EV in the U.S. In 1890 his 14-passenger wagon could go 14 mph. The concept quickly caught on and within a few years, New York had 60 electric taxis scooting about.
Steam was also considered because, given its decades-long success on railroads and in marine and industrial applications, it was familiar and tested. In fact, in 1899, it was the most popular form of automobile propulsion with 1,681 units recorded.
But one could not just jump in a steam car and go – it could take perhaps 45 minutes to raise the needed steam pressure and there would be frequent stops to replenish the water supply.
Gasoline engines were noisy, smelly, and could even be dangerous to start since required hand cranking could misfire the engine and possibly break an arm.
As a result, electric vehicles increased in popularity and, depending on sources, at the beginning of the 20th century, battery-powered electric motors propelled between 28 and 37 percent of all U.S. automobiles.
Electrics were ideal for urban environments where there was a dense network of city streets. EVs ran clean and quiet and had generally good access to recharging via the urban electrical grid. Their limited range presented few problems in local city driving.
Also, because they required no boiler firing or hand cranking of engines, their simplicity of operation made EVs popular with women, according to Quartz.
But several developments brought the soon demise of the EV. First was price — Henry Ford introduced the Model T in 1908 and four years later it sold for an unheard of $650 compared to an electric car at $1,750.
EVs Were More Popular Than Gas Cars a Century Ago, But They Couldn't Avoid Big Problem
Lots of early cars were electrics. But they had problems, some of the same problems affecting electric cars today.
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