EU Wants 'Good' Immigrants, Like the US Gets...

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    But there are a few problems, as the links will show at site:

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/611


     
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    yeah now lets consider the mexican hordes that work in the US and
    lets laugh together about silly statistics.
     
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    Fair enough. From now on, all illegal immigrants caught will be deported to France. Merry Christmas. Two problems solved at once.
     
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    Mexicans aint Muslims, motion denied.
     
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    Uh to the point, most Americans want the Mexican-US border closed to illegals. But what of the C11m already here? Nearly all gain employment, dicey at first, more regular as time goes on. Most own property within 5 years. Many start their own businesses. As of today, any children born here, are US citizens.

    Now I'm not saying that this should continue, but up to this point, the illegals have been getting what they want; employers are getting the salaries they want; we're all getting grocery, daycare, lawncare, and restaurant prices that have been scarcely touched by inflation. Notice a pattern here, that's a trifle different than the 'Welcome immigrants' that EU countries have been handing out?
     
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    no the pattern is not different at all, my parents complained long and loud
    about government guranteed loans for all the Russian"Germans" getting
    new houses.

    There is a differenence at the top level where there is a brain drain
    towards the US.

    But overall the huge majority is working the labor jobs.

    The US just runs the Mexicans mostly illegal. Why, well I assume the
    rich profit from their Mecican housekeepers nannys gardeners and
    dont want to deport em.

    When you compare public sentiment and congress resolutions through
    the last 20 years you d see that they pretty much do the opposite on 80%
    of the topics.

    the numbers 54% and 84% are both laughable.
     
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    The 'Russian Germans' were Germans before being enslaved by the sellout of an ill FDR. We do not ghettoize the Mexicans, Islamics, Asians. Do they live in lower standard housing, perhaps for 5-10 years, when they have sent enough 'back' to Mexico and 'saved enough' to move up, some more quickly, some not at all. BUT, there is no programs for them 'to fall back on' to stay in ghettos. It's the largest reasons we do not have the 'coming to a boil' problem that France is confronting, which they are.
     
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    yeah there are not ghettos of mexicans in the US. Nobody forces the
    Russians to live in Ghettos either. But minorities tend to do that mixed
    with the resentment they often face. Blacks in most rich neighborhoods here
    are not welcome either.

    :thup:

    What else do you got to sell. :boobies:


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    Try this as your new avatar and I shall stop the relentless e-beating. :teeth:
     
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    Um, that isn't the way to encourage discourse. Well, there are plenty of blacks living in wealthy neighborhoods. That doesn't mean that there wasn't and isn't discrimination.

    I teach a class that is 18% Mexican, all the kids are bilinqual, fluently. They all live in more expensive homes than I, though few of their parents are college educated, most own their own business.

    So, is every black in the ghetto, no. Much has been accomplished since the 1960's.

    Neither are all Mexicans driving crazy or pulling lettuce. What I am saying is that in the US, those here legally get further faster, yet even those here illegally have a better standard of living than 'back home' and if they stay long enough, they can garner quite a lot of wealth. What the 'system' does not do for legals or illegals is ghettoize them through a welfare system, with no hope for rising status or income.

    Why do so many Europeans still apply for work visas here? Because of the great economy there? Why so few children being born in Europe, if there is such a glorious future awaiting them?

    You are taking this as European bashing, when if anything it is a lament to what Europe has been 'becoming' for too long.
     
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    no, I already admitted that there is a brain drain on the top level.

    I just like to point out the ghettos and spanish as a second language,

    LA is part of Mexico and other stuff happens here. The great majority
    of immigrants first will always fill the lower physical labor jobs. Here
    in Idaho there is a city only filled with Mexicans. Mostly farm workers
    next to boise. But the numbers that claim that 40+ percent of immigrants
    are top level persons are ridicilous high. You stating it , I assume you agree.
    So I attacked that part of your message and the spin it gives it.

    You failed to counter that. Now back to the kitchen , woman. :shocked:


    My ad hominem attacks are only for my self entertainment.
    Dont take it too seriously. I still love you. :kiss2:
     

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