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Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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One guy says he guesses that 40% of scientists doubt manmade global warming? From an interview with some random organization?
Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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One guy says he guesses that 40% of scientists doubt manmade global warming? From an interview with some random organization?
This is pretty much supported by the extensive polling of Bray and von Storch. The most comprehensive of surveys of Climate scientists available. They polled vetted folks in the field every 2 years for 6 years on a MASSIVE 100+ questions. Since any "poll" with just one or two questions is Bullshit if you're looking for considered consensus.
It's NOT a consensus on the more important technical issues. And upwards of 30% (back about 2 year now) expressed doubt on topics concerning modeling efficacy, confirming changing weather patterns, even the MATURITY of their OWN FIELD..
Look up those surveys. They are eye-opening -- compared to the political rhetoric about silly consensus.
Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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One guy says he guesses that 40% of scientists doubt manmade global warming? From an interview with some random organization?
This is pretty much supported by the extensive polling of Bray and von Storch. The most comprehensive of surveys of Climate scientists available. They polled vetted folks in the field every 2 years for 6 years on a MASSIVE 100+ questions. Since any "poll" with just one or two questions is Bullshit if you're looking for considered consensus.
It's NOT a consensus on the more important technical issues. And upwards of 30% (back about 2 year now) expressed doubt on topics concerning modeling efficacy, confirming changing weather patterns, even the MATURITY of their OWN FIELD..
Look up those surveys. They are eye-opening -- compared to the political rhetoric about silly consensus.
The 98% number has always seemed unlikely.
The 40% doubting manmade global warming from the OP seems like a number pulled out of thin air, though.
I looked up the Bray/von Storch surveys. If you consider any response other than a full 7 to be expressing doubt, than most of the climate scientists have doubt. If you go with those who answered with a 6 or 7, that bumps the number over 70% who believe in manmade climate change in 2013, closer to 75% in 2016. Far from the 97 or 98% number that gets tossed around, but also quite different from saying 40% of qualified scientists doubt manmade global warming. In fact, the Bray/von Storch surveys seem to indicate that belief among climate scientists in manmade global warming is increasing.
I went to Die Klimazwiebel for information: Die Klimazwiebel: Fifth Bray – von Storch International Survey of Climate Scientists completed
The survey seems to indicate that climate scientists increasingly believe that man is effecting the climate, but that there is not any sort of overwhelming consensus regarding all the details.
Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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One guy says he guesses that 40% of scientists doubt manmade global warming? From an interview with some random organization?
This is pretty much supported by the extensive polling of Bray and von Storch. The most comprehensive of surveys of Climate scientists available. They polled vetted folks in the field every 2 years for 6 years on a MASSIVE 100+ questions. Since any "poll" with just one or two questions is Bullshit if you're looking for considered consensus.
It's NOT a consensus on the more important technical issues. And upwards of 30% (back about 2 year now) expressed doubt on topics concerning modeling efficacy, confirming changing weather patterns, even the MATURITY of their OWN FIELD..
Look up those surveys. They are eye-opening -- compared to the political rhetoric about silly consensus.
The 98% number has always seemed unlikely.
The 40% doubting manmade global warming from the OP seems like a number pulled out of thin air, though.
I looked up the Bray/von Storch surveys. If you consider any response other than a full 7 to be expressing doubt, than most of the climate scientists have doubt. If you go with those who answered with a 6 or 7, that bumps the number over 70% who believe in manmade climate change in 2013, closer to 75% in 2016. Far from the 97 or 98% number that gets tossed around, but also quite different from saying 40% of qualified scientists doubt manmade global warming. In fact, the Bray/von Storch surveys seem to indicate that belief among climate scientists in manmade global warming is increasing.
I went to Die Klimazwiebel for information: Die Klimazwiebel: Fifth Bray – von Storch International Survey of Climate Scientists completed
The survey seems to indicate that climate scientists increasingly believe that man is effecting the climate, but that there is not any sort of overwhelming consensus regarding all the details.
Depends on what Bray/Storch questions you LOOK at.. SOME are far more important than "is the earth warming" or "how much does man contribute".. Because of the LARGE number of questions, you zero on the tenets of GW theory.. So --- if 40% have doubts about the ability of the models to PREDICT anything that policy makers can act on --- that's actually more important. Because you won't know HOW MUCH the warming will be in 20 50 80 years out. And the one that threw me was all these superstars of GW calling their Climate community "an immature science". Which is true. Because it only really took off when we got advanced satellite capability in the 80s..
I see no real increase in "belief" on the many UNDERLYING questions of accuracy and maturity of the theory.. I as a skeptic about CATASTROPHIC GW actually go with the MAJORITY on the higher lever "silly" questions of "is the earth warming and does man have something to do with it".. I just doubt the parts of theory about accelerations, positive feedbacks and runaway effects that promote this issue to the CRISIS level it's been portrayed at.
You can't have consensus by asking ONE question on an issue this complex..
Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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One guy says he guesses that 40% of scientists doubt manmade global warming? From an interview with some random organization?
This is pretty much supported by the extensive polling of Bray and von Storch. The most comprehensive of surveys of Climate scientists available. They polled vetted folks in the field every 2 years for 6 years on a MASSIVE 100+ questions. Since any "poll" with just one or two questions is Bullshit if you're looking for considered consensus.
It's NOT a consensus on the more important technical issues. And upwards of 30% (back about 2 year now) expressed doubt on topics concerning modeling efficacy, confirming changing weather patterns, even the MATURITY of their OWN FIELD..
Look up those surveys. They are eye-opening -- compared to the political rhetoric about silly consensus.
The 98% number has always seemed unlikely.
The 40% doubting manmade global warming from the OP seems like a number pulled out of thin air, though.
I looked up the Bray/von Storch surveys. If you consider any response other than a full 7 to be expressing doubt, than most of the climate scientists have doubt. If you go with those who answered with a 6 or 7, that bumps the number over 70% who believe in manmade climate change in 2013, closer to 75% in 2016. Far from the 97 or 98% number that gets tossed around, but also quite different from saying 40% of qualified scientists doubt manmade global warming. In fact, the Bray/von Storch surveys seem to indicate that belief among climate scientists in manmade global warming is increasing.
I went to Die Klimazwiebel for information: Die Klimazwiebel: Fifth Bray – von Storch International Survey of Climate Scientists completed
The survey seems to indicate that climate scientists increasingly believe that man is effecting the climate, but that there is not any sort of overwhelming consensus regarding all the details.
Depends on what Bray/Storch questions you LOOK at.. SOME are far more important than "is the earth warming" or "how much does man contribute".. Because of the LARGE number of questions, you zero on the tenets of GW theory.. So --- if 40% have doubts about the ability of the models to PREDICT anything that policy makers can act on --- that's actually more important. Because you won't know HOW MUCH the warming will be in 20 50 80 years out. And the one that threw me was all these superstars of GW calling their Climate community "an immature science". Which is true. Because it only really took off when we got advanced satellite capability in the 80s..
I see no real increase in "belief" on the many UNDERLYING questions of accuracy and maturity of the theory.. I as a skeptic about CATASTROPHIC GW actually go with the MAJORITY on the higher lever "silly" questions of "is the earth warming and does man have something to do with it".. I just doubt the parts of theory about accelerations, positive feedbacks and runaway effects that promote this issue to the CRISIS level it's been portrayed at.
You can't have consensus by asking ONE question on an issue this complex..
I agree that it is a complex issue and cannot be accurately described by just saying mankind is or is not contributing to warming/climate change. The OP, however, seems to be trying to make it into such a simple equation, and that is what I took issue with.
National Association of ScholarsEstimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming | National Association of Scholars
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Mr. Flacaltenn, most of the membership of the real scientific societies are on board concerning the societies statements on climate change and global warming. If you have proof of it being otherwise, just post it.
List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations - Office of Planning and Research
So what you are saying is that all those scientific societies have a membership that have no say in what their policy is on global warming? I think you need a bit more tinfoil for your little hat.
Let me add though that with fuzzy logic my own personal belief is a lot lower in manmade global warming after reading the article.Thanks for your interest... I just remembered this thread. No I didn't mean my thread to be the end all of climate research.