Erdogan: Bar Israel from the UN

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  1. toomuchtime_
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    Erdogan seems determined to make it impossible for Turkish troops to play any role in a truce, as he once proposed they might, and Ban seems determined to make the UN even more irrelevant than Kofi Annan did when Sharon reoccupied the West Bank.
     
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    Yes, Ban Israel from the UN and ban America from the UN and ban the UN from America! I'll vote for that! :clap2:
     
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    And the Secretary General's name is Ban. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .
     
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    And let's ban the Turks for their periodic pogroms against the Kurds and other ethnic minorities.
     
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    Terry Shut the $%$ Up!

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    This is like a school yard fight! The bully (Iran, Turkey, Syria, Hamas) picks on the kid (Israel) , the kid fights back and is kicking ass and then the Bully runs to the principle (UN) and demands the kid who defended himself to be at fault.

    The principle (UN) calls the school board (OBAMA) and demands the Kid (Israel) be expelled. Not only that but you have parents (libs) that hear about it and start to protest saying the KID (Israel) is a criminal and must be executed.
     
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    Ban the UN from the US. Such an irredeemably USELESS and corrupt organization was never conjured and ought to be either disbanded or moved to the middle of Darfur.

    Like every other nation in the world, Israel has the right, the DUTY, to defend itself and its people and, God bless 'em, Israel will. And all the caterwauling from the international peanut-gallery be damned. EVERYTHING decent and honorable is eventually condemned by the UN anyway. So what's new?

    Bad ol' Israelis won't cooperate and just roll over and die, eh? Tough.
     
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    Why don't we ban the UN from Israel?
     
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    Turkey has somewhat settled itself after 70 years of internal religious-secular struggle. The issue is not completely resolved by any means, but there is general agreement within Turkey that it is time for the country to expand its international influence again.
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    The reason for Ankara’s harshly critical position toward Israel’s Operation Cast Lead can be found, rather, in the politics of the Arab world. At a time when the Arab masses perceive their leaders as either actively supporting Israel or at least doing nothing to stop it, Erdogan is gaining tremendous respect and appreciation in the Arab street for his condemnation of the Israeli offensive and his rhetorical defense of the Palestinians.
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    The view among the Arab masses is that Turkey’s leaders are far more politically competent than their Arab counterparts; Erdogan is seen by the Arab street not only as genuine in his support for the Palestinians, but also as bearing qualities that Arab leaders lack. It is this opportunity that is motivating Ankara’s decision to break with the past and criticize Israel harshly. Growing Muslim solidarity in the region, especially in Turkey, helps explain massive demonstrations organized by Turks protesting the war in Gaza. These demonstrations and Erdogan’s statements have had a deep impact on the Arab psyche at a time when the masses in the Arab world are in search of leadership.
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    Turkey was not the only one taking a firm stance against Israel, however; Iran was actually helping Hamas, not just rhetorically, but militarily. Tehran’s support for both Hezbollah and Hamas has earned it and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a considerable degree of popularity in Arab societies, along with fear and loathing among the Arab palaces. But Iran, an ethnically Persian and religiously Shiite state, can go only so far in positioning itself as a leader of the Muslim world, which is predominantly Sunni and Arab. Iran’s weak economic situation also limits its possibilities as a regional hegemon.
    Turkey has no such problems. While it is true that Turks are ethnically different from Arabs, both are Sunni. Much more importantly, the Arabs lived for some four centuries under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, whose Turkish rulers were seen as caliphs — leaders of Sunni Muslims — by many Muslims around the world.
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    That's it. Political Ankara is keen on expanding its influence. And the ambition sets the limits. Osman is recovering.


    Turkey was voted these days into non-permanent UNSC council for 2 years.
    You can not compare Turkish standing in the world with Israel's standing.
    Our cultural, infrastructural, economical, historical interaction with the world is totally different then Israel's. Israel matters in a limited geography of eastern mediteranean, this tributed to the conflicts it is being placed in. The case with Turkey is totally different.
    You can compare Israel's economical size and amount of exports to that of City of Istanbul. Maybe you understand then. Turkey will never be banned from UN or other organizations.

    Now comeing to the thread:
    You seem to be a Greek, your Username and Avatar (Helm of old-Hellenic hoplites) give me this conclusion.
    As a Greek you should now that Turkey, if it feels the need to, tests its neighbours. Like a dog on a regularily basis pisses on surrounding trees to mark its territory.

    On 14 January Turkish frigate "Turgut Reis" sailed into Greek territorial waters 4 miles off the coast of Greek capital Athens and stayed 8 hours within Greek territorial waters.
    http://www.protothema.gr/content.php?id=21855

    On January 15, one day later, 6 Turkish jets of TUAF enter Greek Airspace and flew 4 hours within Greek Airspace.
    DefenceNet - Ερωτηματικά για το χθεσινό επεισόδιο

    On January 16, this time Turkish frigate "Barbaros" entered Greek territorial waters around Island of Skyros.
    DefenceNet - ΑÎ*ΟΚΛΕΙΣΤΙΚΟ: Τουρκική φρεγάτα πλÎ*ει γύρω απο την Σκύρο εντός των ελληνικών χωρικών υδάτων (update)

    On January 19 Turkish Airforce jets enter Greek Airspace and escort civilian Greek passenger plane:
    Ðáñåíü÷ëçóç ðïëéôéêïý áåñïóêÜöïõò áðü ôïõñêéêÜ ìá÷çôéêÜ - 19/1/2009 12:44:00 ìì

    This equals to the story of the dog and the surrounding trees. And "Yes, we can!".
     
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    LOL, Turkey ignored the UN's calls to not invade Kurdistan, yet they ignored it to protect their people. I guess ignoring a call to halt operations in order to protect your people only applies to Jews!
     
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    You might as well say that you will ban the UN from the planet earth. I ll vote for that, those birdwatchers haven't accomplished anything: it is in fact almost irrelevant to what is happening on planet earth. BAN THE UN!!! :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
     

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