dmp
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padisha emperor said:No problem Nighttrain for the American Independance war.
Why do you say that you are APPALED of France since 100 years ? Appalled seems "terrified", right ?
For the relation between France and USA, read the article of David IGNATIUS from Washington Post. You wilol see that the things are quite better.
You know - or maybe you don't know - I 'm a law student. And I have a little bit International Right (International law ?).
THe States are equal, and no State can interfeer in the inerior job of an other country.
Except for : humanitarian reasons (Rwanda, Somalia) .
If the national subjet are in danger, the country can go here to protect them (Ivory Coast), and also, when the UNO give a mandate.
Iraq : no one of these reason >> against the International rules.
From 1823 to 1917 and from 1919 to 1941, USA did the Monroe doctrine, and were isolationnist.
Since 1945, they are interventionnist.
UAS should find the right middle of thses 2 point of view.
padisha emperor said:Why do you say that you are APPALED of France since 100 years ? Appalled seems "terrified", right ?
For the relation between France and USA, read the article of David IGNATIUS from Washington Post. You wilol see that the things are quite better.
You know - or maybe you don't know - I 'm a law student. And I have a little bit International Right (International law ?).
THe States are equal, and no State can interfeer in the inerior job of an other country.
Except for : humanitarian reasons (Rwanda, Somalia) .
If the national subjet are in danger, the country can go here to protect them (Ivory Coast), and also, when the UNO give a mandate.
Iraq : no one of these reason >> against the International rules.
From 1823 to 1917 and from 1919 to 1941, USA did the Monroe doctrine, and were isolationnist.
Since 1945, they are interventionnist.
NightTrain said:And as a worthy sidenote, you haven't had your country taken over since 1945, isn't that some kind of record?
I would think you'd be pleased with our Policeman role.
padisha emperor said:not sure that we would be invade after 1945......
France had not so bad relations with USSR....and if France was atacked, we would defend ourselves - the 1940 defeat gave a generation of courageous guy, ashamed by Viochy and who wanted to fight anaginst the ennemies - like in Indochina - ....
for the fact that Saddam was an ugly dictator, of course, nobody deny it.
But the fact is that it hurts the UNO, but also the INTERNATIONAL LAWS.
in the national laws, if somebody breaks the rules, he would be punished. For the coutries, it is the same thing.
USA can not do all what they want when they want if they want, because it hurts the international laws.
What will you say if France or UK or Russia go to make war in a country to free the people ? like in Saudi Arabia, where the human rights are not respected...UAS will not agree, it would break the international laws - except if there is an interest for UAS, like oil, in this situation, they will jump to join the war -
And why USA, the nation who free countries lead by dictator (who were sometimes putted by USA) and transform the country in a devasted zone, don't go to N-Korea , Ugly dictator, human rights are not at all respected, the population take a lot in it face, lot of massacres, concentration camps.. and It is a great potential danger for the peace of the world........
padisha emperor said:not sure that we would be invade after 1945......
France had not so bad relations with USSR....and if France was atacked, we would defend ourselves - the 1940 defeat gave a generation of courageous guy, ashamed by Viochy and who wanted to fight anaginst the ennemies - like in Indochina - ....
That's funny as hell. You tried to put up a defense when the Nazis invaded. You had an army, air force and navy which were all commanded by total idiots. Your soldiers and sailors died because your armed forces were commanded by strutting fools like DeGaulle who had no idea how to fight a war. The Nazis went through your country like shit through a goose. The Iraqi army put up more resistance to our guys than the french forces managed against the Nazis.
If the Russians had wanted france, your government would have first attempted to appease them by kissing their asses. If that didn't work, DeGaulle would have high-tailed it for England - again - and left the rest of the country to surrender - again.
And how did Viet Nam get to be your enemy? Had something to do with french colonialism as I recall. So the "enemy" you were fighting was one that you created.
padisha emperor said:You speak of Indochinia....the ennemy, like you said, had several origins.
But the ennemy was armoured by CHina and USSR..........
but why are you speaking of that ? when I mentionned Indochinia I didn't speak of that......
padisha emperor said:rtwng... sorry but what does it mean ? same thing for Said1. sorry
padisha emperor said:oh, ok... thank you to explain to me
No no, not at all, I was speaking of the Viet minh.
But after Merlin speak of these ennemies, and I said that they were created by several factors, one of them is the japanese occupation.
But you're right, French fought Japanese, in march... 1945...
But here, I was speaking of Ho chi minh Giap and their troops.
padisha emperor said:France took back Indochina because it was a french territory.
And France won against the guerrilla, in some battles. It is like the Vietnam, with one difference - 2 in fact - french were not prepared for this kind of war, US were, they could see how the french did to do or not do the same ; French made a big final battle.