DGS49
Diamond Member
Uber Judge Balks at Making Drivers Employees, for Now
If you have ever gone through the process of looking into driving for Uber, you notice that it is a very organized and logical process and the arrangement between driver and company is well-thought out and very plainly explained in a number of ways. You will NOT be an employee. You will be an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. The implications for taxes, insurance (health, collision, and liability), vehicle maintenance and all of that are clearly explained.
Then, having gone over all their materials, you either decide to sign up and give it a shot, or you decline to do so. And as with a "job," if you decide after one hour, one day, or one decade that you don't like the arrangement, you can quit. Nobody is forcing you to drive for Uber. Ever.
For every single person who drives for Uber (or who takes any job, for that matter), driving for Uber is the best available option for you at the time when the decision is made. And it continues to be the best available option unless you are stupid or crazy. If you have a better option, you take it.
An ethical, moral person lives up to his commitments. If you have signed a contract of any kind, that constitutes a PROMISE, which must not be broken except under serious duress or changed circumstances. So to sign up to drive for Uber then SUE THEM TO FORCE THEM TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS AN EMPLOYEE is immoral, illogical, and nefarious.
And judges who even countenance such suits are WORSE than the individuals and their sleaze-bag lawyers.
You knew the "Deal" and you signed a contract to accept it. You are free to leave at any moment. If you wanted to work as a taxi driver-employee, you could have gone with a cab company (where the employment also "sucks," to be honest - I've done it), or taken up another line of work.
Imagine you and a gazillion others had said to Uber, "We refuse to work as independent contractors; we insist on being EMPLOYEES." And if Uber conceded, the entire compensation protocol would change, in order for Uber to be able to pay payroll taxes, UEC, WC, benefits, and so on. But NO, you want to change to employee status without giving Uber the opportunity to adjust the transaction accordingly.
It is nauseating. If you don't like the compensation with Uber, then don't drive for Uber (or Lyft). Those are the options. Si or No.
If you have ever gone through the process of looking into driving for Uber, you notice that it is a very organized and logical process and the arrangement between driver and company is well-thought out and very plainly explained in a number of ways. You will NOT be an employee. You will be an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. The implications for taxes, insurance (health, collision, and liability), vehicle maintenance and all of that are clearly explained.
Then, having gone over all their materials, you either decide to sign up and give it a shot, or you decline to do so. And as with a "job," if you decide after one hour, one day, or one decade that you don't like the arrangement, you can quit. Nobody is forcing you to drive for Uber. Ever.
For every single person who drives for Uber (or who takes any job, for that matter), driving for Uber is the best available option for you at the time when the decision is made. And it continues to be the best available option unless you are stupid or crazy. If you have a better option, you take it.
An ethical, moral person lives up to his commitments. If you have signed a contract of any kind, that constitutes a PROMISE, which must not be broken except under serious duress or changed circumstances. So to sign up to drive for Uber then SUE THEM TO FORCE THEM TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS AN EMPLOYEE is immoral, illogical, and nefarious.
And judges who even countenance such suits are WORSE than the individuals and their sleaze-bag lawyers.
You knew the "Deal" and you signed a contract to accept it. You are free to leave at any moment. If you wanted to work as a taxi driver-employee, you could have gone with a cab company (where the employment also "sucks," to be honest - I've done it), or taken up another line of work.
Imagine you and a gazillion others had said to Uber, "We refuse to work as independent contractors; we insist on being EMPLOYEES." And if Uber conceded, the entire compensation protocol would change, in order for Uber to be able to pay payroll taxes, UEC, WC, benefits, and so on. But NO, you want to change to employee status without giving Uber the opportunity to adjust the transaction accordingly.
It is nauseating. If you don't like the compensation with Uber, then don't drive for Uber (or Lyft). Those are the options. Si or No.