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Sure you did. You voted for Obama, that was plenty to add to this problem. Because it's clear he's not going to do anything to actually fix it. He's working for the same people that bought the last administration. Congratulations, you were duped.
Bullshit.
You guys made this problem not Obama.
You cheered and voted for what created this mess and now you refuse the pathway that has already been proven by history to lead us out of this.
Wrong. You'll find no historical evidence that suggests deficit spending will save an economy, especially when it's of this magnitude.
he hasmaybe you should go study the FDR years
you havent
Do you understand the concept of causality? Nevermind, I've never met a lib that does.
You're argument is essentially that somehow the government (an institution that has never spent money very efficiently) having but loads of money is what makes the country prosperous. HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU?
Stop dodging chicken shit. The irony of your name on these board is truly ironic here. When confronted with the above truth of your position you change the subject. You libs are so predictable. You simply don't have the capacity to cogently defend any argument do you? It's the same fucking thing every time. You make some asanine statement about the way things ought to be or who is to be blamed for what and as soon as soon as someone confronts your assertion instead of making any type of argument that comes close to logically challenging it you resort to either attacking the source of the information or out right name calling or pretty much anything NOT having to do with the actual. TIME TO GET A NEW FUCKING PLAYBOOK. IF THE TRUTH REALLY DOES MATTER HOW ABOUT YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME KIND OF HALFWAY REASONABLE ARGUMENT TO DEFEND IT? Is the above NOT the truth of your argument? If not, why not?
Are yo contesting that the private sector could not have done it more efficiently? Did Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or Stephen Hawking come out of NASA? Simply having roads doesn't mean they were contracted for or built efficiently, either.
Tell just how great the private sector is at taking care of our economy when we have the current situation they caused ( just shy of complete global economic meltdown) not to mention how well our healthcare compares to others.
Heres a clue asshole , giving all the power to corporations has given us this unholy fucking mess. Now you claim government is worse than them. Just what the fuck do you suggest we do curl up and die?
Can't because your premise is wrong. We weren't shy of of global economic meltdown. these are just scare tactics. Things are just barely as bad as the recession of the 70's. If you are so stupid, obtuse or naive or all of the above, take your pick to realize that the TRUTH is one group isn't responsible or even mostly responsible for this there really is little point in having the conversatiion...TRUTH.
What a damned lie. At no time in my life, and I was born during WW2 have I seen the economy in this condition. In the '70s, we were not in the position of having to bail out virtually the whole of the financial industry, worldwide.
We are very much on the edge of the Second Great Republican Depression. And you fellows are still standing there stating "the fundementals of the economy are strong".
Stop dodging chicken shit. The irony of your name on these board is truly ironic here. When confronted with the above truth of your position you change the subject. You libs are so predictable. You simply don't have the capacity to cogently defend any argument do you? It's the same fucking thing every time. You make some asanine statement about the way things ought to be or who is to be blamed for what and as soon as soon as someone confronts your assertion instead of making any type of argument that comes close to logically challenging it you resort to either attacking the source of the information or out right name calling or pretty much anything NOT having to do with the actual. TIME TO GET A NEW FUCKING PLAYBOOK. IF THE TRUTH REALLY DOES MATTER HOW ABOUT YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME KIND OF HALFWAY REASONABLE ARGUMENT TO DEFEND IT? Is the above NOT the truth of your argument? If not, why not?
Are yo contesting that the private sector could not have done it more efficiently? Did Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or Stephen Hawking come out of NASA? Simply having roads doesn't mean they were contracted for or built efficiently, either.
Can't because your premise is wrong. We weren't shy of of global economic meltdown. these are just scare tactics. Things are just barely as bad as the recession of the 70's. If you are so stupid, obtuse or naive or all of the above, take your pick to realize that the TRUTH is one group isn't responsible or even mostly responsible for this there really is little point in having the conversatiion...TRUTH.
What a damned lie. At no time in my life, and I was born during WW2 have I seen the economy in this condition. In the '70s, we were not in the position of having to bail out virtually the whole of the financial industry, worldwide.
We are very much on the edge of the Second Great Republican Depression. And you fellows are still standing there stating "the fundementals of the economy are strong".
Remind us again, dickmouth, When did Chris Dodd, Rahm Emanuel, and Bill Clinton became republicans? Funny how the depression didn't end when Roosevelt was in office.
sure, if you want to wait till 2027 for it to endhe hasmaybe you should go study the FDR years
you havent
Again, study what happened during WW2. Seems that we should emulate the spending and tax structure of that period in order to solve this present crisis.
Stop dodging chicken shit. The irony of your name on these board is truly ironic here. When confronted with the above truth of your position you change the subject. You libs are so predictable. You simply don't have the capacity to cogently defend any argument do you? It's the same fucking thing every time. You make some asanine statement about the way things ought to be or who is to be blamed for what and as soon as soon as someone confronts your assertion instead of making any type of argument that comes close to logically challenging it you resort to either attacking the source of the information or out right name calling or pretty much anything NOT having to do with the actual. TIME TO GET A NEW FUCKING PLAYBOOK. IF THE TRUTH REALLY DOES MATTER HOW ABOUT YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME KIND OF HALFWAY REASONABLE ARGUMENT TO DEFEND IT? Is the above NOT the truth of your argument? If not, why not?
Are yo contesting that the private sector could not have done it more efficiently? Did Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or Stephen Hawking come out of NASA? Simply having roads doesn't mean they were contracted for or built efficiently, either.
Can't because your premise is wrong. We weren't shy of of global economic meltdown. these are just scare tactics. Things are just barely as bad as the recession of the 70's. If you are so stupid, obtuse or naive or all of the above, take your pick to realize that the TRUTH is one group isn't responsible or even mostly responsible for this there really is little point in having the conversatiion...TRUTH.
What a damned lie. At no time in my life, and I was born during WW2 have I seen the economy in this condition. In the '70s, we were not in the position of having to bail out virtually the whole of the financial industry, worldwide.
You had double digit unemployment in the 70s.
We are very much on the edge of the Second Great Republican Depression. And you fellows are still standing there stating "the fundementals of the economy are strong".
You are again dodging TRUTH ( I just can't get over the irony in that). We aren't any where near depression numbers. I have never said things are all rosey, but they aren't anywhere near depression levels. If you were born during WW2 how the hell did you get to be this void of perspective? How does someone your age have the immaturity to imply there is actual truth in their posts when you're obviously a partisan hack?
yeah, Obama was in the senate, he voted for the stuff that made this problem just as much as BUsh signed itSure you did. You voted for Obama, that was plenty to add to this problem. Because it's clear he's not going to do anything to actually fix it. He's working for the same people that bought the last administration. Congratulations, you were duped.
Bullshit.
You guys made this problem not Obama.
You cheered and voted for what created this mess and now you refuse the pathway that has already been proven by history to lead us out of this.
you are an idiot
yeah, shove that head further up Obama's assyeah, Obama was in the senate, he voted for the stuff that made this problem just as much as BUsh signed itBullshit.
You guys made this problem not Obama.
You cheered and voted for what created this mess and now you refuse the pathway that has already been proven by history to lead us out of this.
you are an idiot
WRONG!
Obama did not vote for GLBact 1999, he wasnt even in the senate yet.
Revenue Act of 1932 - This was one of the biggest tax increases in history on individuals and corporations! Most creditable economist credit it with making the Great Depression worse much much worse! Hebert "the Fucking Idoit" Hoover was in office at the time, so don't say I will never bash a Republican! How do people and business spend money to spurn on the economy when the government starts taking more of it away - ex. highest tax bracket increased from 25-63%? How do corporation invest in people (jobs), products, innovation, marketing and selling when the government increases the corporate rate by 10%? BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD moves!
Revenue Act of 1932 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Revenue Act of 1932 - This was one of the biggest tax increases in history on individuals and corporations! Most creditable economist credit it with making the Great Depression worse much much worse! Hebert "the Fucking Idoit" Hoover was in office at the time, so don't say I will never bash a Republican! How do people and business spend money to spurn on the economy when the government starts taking more of it away - ex. highest tax bracket increased from 25-63%? How do corporation invest in people (jobs), products, innovation, marketing and selling when the government increases the corporate rate by 10%? BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD moves!
Revenue Act of 1932 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Year - Real GDP 2000$ - % chng
1930 790.7 -8.6%
1931 739.9 -6.4%
1932 643.7 -13.0%
1933 635.5 -1.3%
1934 704.2 10.8%
1935 766.9 8.9%
1936 866.6 13.0%
1937 911.1 5.1%
1938 879.7 -3.4%
1939 950.7 8.1%
1940 1,034.1 8.8%
Source: BEA.gov
It sure looks like things got better after 1932 to me. The increase was passed Jun '32 effective for the '32 year for taxes due in '33. I'm sure you can find conservative editorials who will say the tax increase "prolonged" the rescession. That's what conservatives do nowdays, defend tax cuts and criticize tax increases.
But there's the data on real GDP. Folks can decide for themselves if the it looks like the tax increase made the depression much much worse.
Sure doesn't look like it to me.
to claim that the tax rate is responsible for the success in the country is complete naivety. there are numerous factors other than taxes.
Revenue Act of 1932 - This was one of the biggest tax increases in history on individuals and corporations! Most creditable economist credit it with making the Great Depression worse much much worse! Hebert "the Fucking Idoit" Hoover was in office at the time, so don't say I will never bash a Republican! How do people and business spend money to spurn on the economy when the government starts taking more of it away - ex. highest tax bracket increased from 25-63%? How do corporation invest in people (jobs), products, innovation, marketing and selling when the government increases the corporate rate by 10%? BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD moves!
Revenue Act of 1932 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Year - Real GDP 2000$ - % chng
1930 790.7 -8.6%
1931 739.9 -6.4%
1932 643.7 -13.0%
1933 635.5 -1.3%
1934 704.2 10.8%
1935 766.9 8.9%
1936 866.6 13.0%
1937 911.1 5.1%
1938 879.7 -3.4%
1939 950.7 8.1%
1940 1,034.1 8.8%
Source: BEA.gov
It sure looks like things got better after 1932 to me. The increase was passed Jun '32 effective for the '32 year for taxes due in '33. I'm sure you can find conservative editorials who will say the tax increase "prolonged" the rescession. That's what conservatives do nowdays, defend tax cuts and criticize tax increases.
But there's the data on real GDP. Folks can decide for themselves if the it looks like the tax increase made the depression much much worse.
Sure doesn't look like it to me.
You do realize the the Great Depression started in 1929, but was not in the full downward spiral until 1932! In '32 unemployment was at 24.9%! FDR wasn't even in office during this act yet. This act came about at the beginning of the G.D.!
http://www.shambhala.org/business/goldocean/causdep.html
You can twist it any way you want, but the Great Depression rapidly spread shortly after one of the largest tax increases on individuals and corporations in US history (via the Revenue Act of 1932) and after American's boardest protectionism boost in US history (via the Smoot-Hawley Tarriff Act)!
to claim that the tax rate is responsible for the success in the country is complete naivety. there are numerous factors other than taxes.
Yet that has been the claim underlying the failed "voodoo" economics that propelled Reagan and Bush into the WH.
Hard to believe folks bought that stuff.