Economic Sanctions Against NK: Do we need more of it?

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    Economic sanctions are imposed against North Korea for four primary reasons:
    (1) North Korea is seen as posing a threat to the security of East Asia
    (2) North Korea is a state sponsor or supporter of international terrorism
    (3) North Korea is a Marxist-Leninist state, with a Communist government
    (4) North Korea has been found by the United State Department to have engaged in proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
    Moreover, the United States has also taken steps to isolate the Macau-based Banco Delta Asia for counterfeiting and money-laundering activities, actions North Korea has characterized as attacks against it.
    In accordance with U.S. law, the United States limits some trade, denies trade in dual-use goods and services, limits foreign aid, and opposes entry into or support from international financial institutions.
    Here' s one thing I learnt about NK in Game Theory class. Game theory can be applied to study actions (both political or economic) between 'rational' countries. However, rationality does not exist in NK, so it is very tough to study NK's actions. Not only do we have a very imperfect information about NK, making it a very complex Bayesian game, NK is simply very irrational.
    So what do we do with irrational parties? Simply do not negotiate with them.
    Negotiations with them is impossible. The only answer to irrationality would be economic/physical/political sanctions and threats.
    The day of NK rocket launch is nearing. Kim Jong Un claims that the 'satellite' will be launched next week, around April 12-14.
    Although the international society have been pressuring the NK regime into aborting the launch, I believe the sanctions on NK was insufficient to thwart their efforts.
    What we need is stronger sanctions. Although it is very unfortunate that the North Korean people are starving, persuading them to abandon nuclear weapons for food is definitely not the answer to the problem. Although the food may ease the starvation problem for a temporary period, it will extend and justify the dictatorship in NK for a longer time, which will in turn backfire at the NK people for a extended period of cruelty from the totalitarian government.
     
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    I agree a tougher approach to North Korea is necessary.
     
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    What do we do with irrational parties? We need to draft Rush Limbaugh into military service, drop mass amounts of AM radios into their population centers and let the outraged propaganda begin where it can do some good.
     
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    No, I think that frankly the North Koreans should be warned - privately, not publicly - that they will not be allowed to fire that missile and that if it is being fuelled it will be destroyed.
     
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    Lil' Kim's rocket launch backfires...
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    UN Security Council Rebukes N. Korea, Tightens Sanctions
    January 22, 2013 — The U.N. Security Council has unanimously adopted a resolution expanding and strengthening sanctions against North Korea. Tuesday’s action was a response to Pyongyang’s launch of a long-range rocket last month - a violation of existing U.N. resolutions.

     
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    Granny says, "Lil' Kim gettin' uppity again...
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    North Korea says new nuclear test will be part of fight against U.S.
    Thu January 24, 2013 - U.S. secretary of defense says predicting a North Korean test is difficult; Pyongyang says it plans a new nuclear test and further long-range rocket launches; It vows an "all-out action" against the United States, which it calls its "sworn enemy"; North Korea is upset by a recent U.N. Security Council resolution, an analyst says
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    North Korea warn South over UN sanctions
    25 January 2013 - North Korea referred to the government in Seoul as "the puppet group of traitors"
     
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    Lil' Kim not happy `bout sanctions...
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    N. Korea Threatens 'Merciless' War
    January 29, 2013 - North Korea issued new threats against the South and its allies on Tuesday, saying it views a recent expansion of United Nations Security Council sanctions as an act of war.
     
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    The World hasn't been paying attention to Kim Nutball Jr in a while, so he's throwing a hissy fit.
     
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    If invading Iraq was necessary, then invading North Korea is necessary. All the same conditions that made Iraq 'necessary' are in place in NK.
     
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    Semi-official Chinese newspaper urges gov't. to get tough with No. Korea...
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    China Urged to Take Tough Stance if N. Korea Conducts Nuclear Test
    February 06, 2013 - An editorial in a prominent semi-official Chinese newspaper is urging China's government to take a tough stance against North Korea if Pyongyang follows through on its threat to conduct a third nuclear test.
     

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