Dunning-Kruger Effect is Junk Science

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    what the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t

    "As you can see, the findings reported by Kruger and Dunning are often interpreted to suggest that the less competent people are, the more competent they think they are. People who perform worst at a task tend to think they’re god’s gift to said task, and the people who can actually do said task often display excessive modesty. I suspect we find this sort of explanation compelling because it appeals to our implicit just-world theories: we’d like to believe that people who obnoxiously proclaim their excellence at X, Y, and Z must really not be so very good at X, Y, and Z at all, and must be (over)compensating for some actual deficiency; it’s much less pleasant to imagine that people who go around shoving their (alleged) superiority in our faces might really be better than us at what they do.

    Unfortunately, Kruger and Dunning never actually provided any support for this type of just-world view; their studies categorically didn’t show that incompetent people are more confident or arrogant than competent people. What they did show is this:"
     
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    "People underestimate the discrepancy between themselves and experts, yes, but, with individual exceptions,

    they don't think themselves experts if they're not. So, in that sense, in the sense that the popular press reported it, the DK Effect doesn't really exist.
     
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    Trump gave simple repetitive speeches that named all the icons conservatives have been taught to hate. Media, elites, government, certain minorities, diversity, liberals, welfare recipients, Hillary, etc etc. Some are simply symbols. The group that believed these harangues is still with him, they will always be there as the enemy of my enemy is my friend even when the act is a charade as it was with Trump. So long as the economy is stable the poorly written play will continue.... Below is reading for the interested reader, see especially 'why your brain...'

    "This ‘illusion of confidence’ extends beyond the classroom and permeates everyday life. In a follow-up study, Dunning and Kruger left the lab and went to a gun range, where they quizzed gun hobbyists about gun safety." Kate Fehlhaber

    What know-it-alls don’t know, or the illusion of competence | Aeon Ideas

    "Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing."

    Overcoming Us vs. Them

    HRC hatred is a fascinating phenom. The Destruction of Hillary Clinton by Susan Bordo

    'This is what happens when the world is led by a child' This is what happens when the world is led by a child

    "It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise." Joseph Goebbels

    PS do a youtube search for Robert Sapolsky if you want to learn and read 'Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain' by David Eagleman for a mind blowing read.

    Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain by David Eagleman
     
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