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Mention "dumbfuckism" and look who comes strolling in, like a moth to a flame.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Its what we've all come to expect from you.
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Mention "dumbfuckism" and look who comes strolling in, like a moth to a flame.
Mention "dumbfuckism" and look who comes strolling in, like a moth to a flame.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Its what we've all come to expect from you.
Hey you know what we needed? Another thread whining about people whining about gun control. I don't think I've seen one yet on here.
so what? the mods will allow people to express their thoughts for a bit and then bring some control to the situation.
why don't you let people live their lives and not assert control?
What are you talking about? I'm genuinely thrilled at yet another thread with the same talking points and the same faux rage. So much originality and intelligence flowing here.
Mention "dumbfuckism" and look who comes strolling in, like a moth to a flame.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Its what we've all come to expect from you.
He was obviously talking about Truthmatters.
Well, I did end up in a dumbfuck sammich, of sorts.Mention "dumbfuckism" and look who comes strolling in, like a moth to a flame.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Its what we've all come to expect from you.
He was obviously talking about Truthmatters.
My question is why don't these schools have security?
I agree. Weopons should be banned.Very simply, we have a nation that absolutely does nothing for the mentally ill untill they go completely off. And we also have a nation awash in weopons, very easy access to such weopons.
And a bunch of people that believe the answer is even easier access to more weopons yet.
Time for some real action. Both on the mental health end, and on the ease of access to weopons.
I simply will not tolerate the right wing nonsense about second amendment rights on this issue. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the government has the right to protect citizens by limiting the type of weopons and who can own them. It is time to get the people weopons off the streets.
libs calling for gun-control measures that would, in no way, have prevented the Connecticut tragedy...
typical dumb-fuck libs...
Sorry, but human dog shit like you is being scooped up and thrown out.
We're done with you and your kind.
i am liberal. i don't support more gun legislation. the solution is deeper than that. i wish it were as a simple as passing laws.
right and you are exemplifying intelligence right now? don't think so.
Don't you think it's intelligent for people to say the same fucking things over and over? I certainly do. Hey maybe you should consider starting a thread about people whining about gun control. Haven't seen that yet.
Hey you know what we needed? Another thread whining about people whining about gun control. I don't think I've seen one yet on here.
Well I think we could be at a tipping point for two reasons: a tipping point where we might actually get something done. First, this was not a single incident. It followed a series of others. In the last few months, weve had mass shootings in Oregon and Wisconsin and Colorado, Schumer said in response to CBS Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer asking, Where do you see this going? When the public sees these as isolated incidents, theyre less upset than when they occur one after the other, and the public will not accept, the public will not accept as a new normal one of these incidents every month these mass shootings, the senator said.
Twenty-year-old Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday after murdering his mother at their home. Second, of course, it involved children, and its so poignant to see those pictures, and I read the story in the newspaper where the families waited in the firehouse, and when they found that a young child had survived, they called the parents out, and there were other parents waiting. What agony! What horror! So I think we can get something done, Schumer said.
Schumer proposed reinstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting the size of clips to no more than 10 bullets per clip, and making it harder for mentally unstable people to get guns. I think we have to do things that protect the Second Amendment rights of legitimate gun owners, but three things that we should focus on: We dont know the details yet, so you cant say that any of them would have stopped this incident, but you can say they are parts of the pattern, Schumer said. One is to ban assault weapons, to try and reinstate the assault weapons ban. The second is to limit the size of clips to maybe no more than 10 bullets per clip. And the third would be to make it harder for mentally unstable people to get guns. Each has had something to do with these other incidents obviously assault weapons, he said.
The clips you may remember when Jared Loughner in the Gabby Giffords shooting tried to reload. Thats when he was tackled. And it seems most of the people who were involved had mental instability. So those are the three areas that I think we will focus on, and Im hopeful that there can be some kind of change, Schumer added. Schieffer said he tried to get a Republican from the Judiciary Committee to appear on the show, but all of the members were either unavailable or said no.
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First, those of us who are pro-gun control have to admit that there is a Second Amendment right to bear arms. I know that my colleagues on the pro-gun side say, How can the liberals, how can the left say the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th Amendments should be read expansively and the 2nd Amendment should be seen so narrowly through the pinhole of, Well, its only militias, Schumer said on CBS Face the Nation. Host Bob Schieffer asked: Id like your view on why is it that it is so hard to get anything done in this area, because you know its not just that Congress is reluctant to pass laws. Members, as we found out this weekend when we tried to get guests to come and talk about this on Face the Nation, people are just reluctant to even discuss it. Its the thing that I think theyre more reluctant about this than they are about raising taxes when you come right down to it.
Schumer, who wrote the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and authored the original assault weapons ban in the House, proposed reinstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making sure mentally unstable people cant get guns. Well that may well be true. Weve been gridlocked. You have both sides off in a corner, and I, as someone who wrote the Brady law and was the House author of the assault weapons ban, spend more time trying to stop bad things from happening than being able to do good things, Schumer said. But I think we need a new paradigm, Bob. Its not any one person making another speech or whatever. We need a new paradigm cause both sides are in a corner, and they could come to the middle, he said. And the NRA and other groups even further to the right have engendered fear in the average gun owner. In large parts of America, guns are a way of life that, you know, the left wants to take that hunting rifle that your Uncle Tommy gave you when you were 14, the senator said.
Also, Schumer said, the right must admit that no amendment is absolute. Once we establish that there is a constitutional right to bear arms, we should have the right admit and maybe theyll be willing to admit that no amendment is absolute. After all, the 1st Amendment has limitations you cant scream fire in a, falsely scream fire in a crowded theater. We have limits on libel and pornography, he said. Every amendment should have some balance and some limitation, and if were together, we can come to the middle on that, maybe we can make some real progress, instead of each side being off in their corner one side saying, Ban guns. Get rid of guns, and the other side saying, Dont you touch anything about guns, Schumer said.
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People just want a solution to this problem. Liberals knee-jerk reaction is to call for gun control, even though it will never work, especially in this country.
My question is why don't these schools have security? We have cops giving out bogus traffic tickets all over the place, but we don't have cops or security at schools? We pay property taxes and state/fed taxes that supposedly go to our schools, they can't hire security with all those millions of dollars?
my understanding is that this is a lock down school. it was 'secure'...
i am liberal. i don't support more gun legislation. the solution is deeper than that. i wish it were as a simple as passing laws.
I agree. I keep saying that I believe we should treat this as an issue of gun safety. But, if we really want our people, our children to be safe, we need to address that in a serious way.
The gun nuts say we need more guns but its obvious that more guns has not worked so far and it would be ridiculous to believe that something will suddenly change that.
If they want more guns, they should go out and buy more guns. Nothing is stopping them. And, nothing stops them from blowing away a mass killer but that doesn't happen either.
(In all the mass murders we've had in the US, I've found two examples of an ARMED bystander trying to stop the shooter. OTOH, there have been multiple instances of UNarmed bystanders trying and succeeding in stopping the carnage.
So, go ahead and buy all the guns you want but that has shown itself to be wishful thinking on the part of all the Mighty Mice.
We need to ease up, folks. Change is needed. We will have to abandon our talking points and get it done.
Has this latest massacre jolted anyone into a desire to solve the problem? Anyone?