drones vs. hand to hand-combat

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    This was brought up before the election in that 44 wanted to leave an updated guidlines for operating teh drones should his opponent win teh election.

    On Point just had a good program @ drones and their legality & the impersonalization of killing.

    Rules For Drones | On Point with Tom Ashbrook
    Its analogous to guns in Japan back in the day. Way back when I was in Japan, guns were only used by people who couldn't fight. Add to this the kings ransom the tax-payers are paying for these from the *cough* "contractors". Imagine some pencil-necked geek w/ a pocket protector taking out a warrior. Somethin aint right w/ this picture. Should theh drone army be curtailed?

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    Mebbe is Israeli drone?...
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    Navy: No US drones missing after Iran claim
    Dec 4,`12 -- A U.S. Navy spokesman says no American drones are missing in the Middle East following Iranian claims it had captured an unmanned American surveillance aircraft.
     
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    This is an asymetrical war. No uniforms, no rules, one side considers civilians, even children, legitimate targets. That side hides among civilians when they are not on the attack, using nations that hostile to us, or unstable enough not to be able to take them out.

    Now, how should we fight them? Take out the cities that they are hiding in? Send in soldiers in an invasion and hope we can catch them before they escape? We have the military capability to do other, at least a couple of times. Both options would result in massive civilian causulties. The latter major casualties to among our sons and daughters in the military.

    Or, we can use our technology, and catch them on road, or in an isolated area, and take them out. A much less costly option than the other two. And these people are not warriors. Warriors don't purposely target women and children. Whether our own murderers, like Timothy McVeigh, or members of the Taliban that shoot little girls for political reasons, we are not taking out warriors, we are serving justice on murderers.
     
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    Drones allow the government more leeway to attack.

    While I think drones are better than boots on the ground, I worry over the power the executive branch has with drones.
     
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    not saying they don't hit their target most of the time based on human intel, which can be flawed, just that they are legally dubious, an affront to civil liberties/big brother government, and create more enemies than they kill according to some accounts.
     
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    Notice how women and children are separate, but not men? All men hit in the zone are considered enemy combatants. Apparently men can't be innocent civilians.:rolleyes:
     
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    The opposite of drones is not hand to hand combat. There are other methods of eliminating the enemy cleaner and with better accuracy. Drones are nothing more than an updated video game version of the old WW2 tactic of "bomb them all and let God sort them out".
     
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    That's the narrative presented by the pentagon anyway.

    The fact is this policy is just as dispicable as when Bush was doing it. The only difference is now, we don't hear so much about it anymore. It doesn't fit the desired narrative in building perception.
     
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