Dream Act nightmare put on hold

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  1. ScreamingEagle
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    Democrats were not able to get enough support to sneak this piece of crap through… this time.
    (it may come back in November)

    This bill would essentially offer legal citizenship to any illegal who came here at age 15 or younger (and remained here for at least 5 years) who would then be allowed to go on and become legal citizens by attending college (displacing legal citizens in the process of course) or else by serving in the armed forces (illegals in our army?) for a couple years.

    In other words, reward children of illegal immigrants with citizenship...not to mention offering them higher learning and job prospects.

     
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    Bottom line, Reid is more political saavy than my stupid senior Senator.
     
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    The amendment would have provided a path to legalization for undocumented students who graduate from U.S. high schools and attend college or serve in the military for at least two years—and meet certain other criteria.


    I've got no problem with this. Anyone willing to ammo up, and fight for the United States, should be given citizenship. That's a given. Lord knows, there's a lot of chickenhawks who won't ammo up for wars they start.
     
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    Note all those things before service?
     
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    This bill doesn't reward the parents for breaking the law. Its for kids who had no choice, about the choices their parents made.

    In my book, anybody who meets the criteria of good moral character, serves in the military or graduates from college, and meets other stringent criteria in the bill, is exactly the kind of americans we need. If these people do those things, they will make excellent americans. Exactly the kind of citizens we need.
     
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    BS, with the exception of those that 'serve' in military, knowing what is known post 9/11, they are illegals. Smarts or a steel butt counts for 0.
     
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    How do you know these are "exactly the kind of americans we need"? What if they are the grown children of terrorists who have been indoctrinated since they were babies? They could join with the intent of spying and sabotage. That's not what we "need".

    What if they are illegals who have no real intent to stay in America but just want to make some money and then go back home, wherever that is. They get to take our knowledge and our military expertise for free and export it?
    That's not what we "need" either.

    Besides, this would only encourage MORE illegals to come to America with all their children and their neighbor's kids too....they wouldn't even have to pop out babies born on American soil anymore...just evade ICE for five years...
     
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    But how do you know the 15 year old living nex door to you (son of Citizens) is the type of Americans we need? Perhaps you neighbors are closeted Terrorists? Not that they are, but that scenario makes just as much sense as yours.
     
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    Could be, but I'd rather take chances with them more than ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    Besides, what the hell gives an ILLEGAL ALIEN the right to wear the U.S. uniform? How can you expect an ILLEGAL ALIEN to swear allegiance to America and mean it?
     
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    How do you know these are "exactly the kind of americans we need"? What if they are the grown children of terrorists who have been indoctrinated since they were babies?

    Oh Good God...can you wingnutters get any more paranoid? Please stop pissing your pants.
     

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