Does Anyone Believe The US WON'T Become Like London / France?

[easyt65]

After having to admit the federal government's vetting process does NOT work...

After allowing Islamic Extremists in this country who have committed acts of terror and have killed Americans...

After watching London and France infested with Islamic extremists and 'disciples' of Sharia Law carve out 'No-Go' Zones where the host nation's law enforcement and government do not go or preside...

After watching the continued decline of those countries, their security diminish, and repeated terrorist attacks being perpetrated - their numbers growing as the numbers of ISIS / terrorists infiltrating the refugees coming into their country...

After our own national security experts have declared ISIS / terrorists HAVE ALREADY infiltrated refugees and will continue to do so...

Is there anyone who actually thinks, with Hillary vowing to bring in 1 million in her 1st year in office, that with this reckless rush to bring in refugees that our nation will NOT become like / resemble London and France in the future?

If so, once they are here and the transformation begins, how are you going to stop it and reverse it?!

Woman killed in London attack was an American, police say | Fox News

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Become?
We already have more mass attacks/killings
than either.

 

[hazlnut]

After having to admit the federal government's vetting process does NOT work...

After allowing Islamic Extremists in this country who have committed acts of terror and have killed Americans...

After watching London and France infested with Islamic extremists and 'disciples' of Sharia Law carve out 'No-Go' Zones where the host nation's law enforcement and government do not go or preside...

After watching the continued decline of those countries, their security diminish, and repeated terrorist attacks being perpetrated - their numbers growing as the numbers of ISIS / terrorists infiltrating the refugees coming into their country...

After our own national security experts have declared ISIS / terrorists HAVE ALREADY infiltrated refugees and will continue to do so...

Is there anyone who actually thinks, with Hillary vowing to bring in 1 million in her 1st year in office, that with this reckless rush to bring in refugees that our nation will NOT become like / resemble London and France in the future?

If so, once they are here and the transformation begins, how are you going to stop it and reverse it?!

Woman killed in London attack was an American, police say | Fox News

There's more people in California than both those countries.

So, no....

 

[easyt65]

Become?
We already have more mass attacks/killings
than either.

Focus, Jake. We are talking about Islamic Extremism.

 

[easyt65]

There's more people in California than both those countries. So, no....

Yes, there is more space / room for those who believe in Sharia Law to carve out their own little areas while not being noticed for a while....US courts have already had to step in and declare Sharia Courts that have stood up to be invalid'. Yes, the US is huge, so it might take more time that in London and France...but that's one thing Americans have not fully comprehended. Worshippers of islam - Islamic Extremists - have been and are extremely patient, unlike Americans who have the attention span of goldfish.

 

[Old Rocks]

Become?
We already have more mass attacks/killings
than either.

Yep. But they are mostly from our own home grown terrorists, not from Muslims. And that doesn't count. After all, Americans murdering Americans is just the normal state of affairs.

 

[Old Rocks]

There's more people in California than both those countries. So, no....

Yes, there is more space / room for those who believe in Sharia Law to carve out their own little areas while not being noticed for a while....US courts have already had to step in and declare Sharia Courts that have stood up to be invalid'. Yes, the US is huge, so it might take more time that in London and France...but that's one thing Americans have not fully comprehended. Worshippers of islam - Islamic Extremists - have been and are extremely patient, unlike Americans who have the attention span of goldfish.

Yes, and we have had to step in and state that the far right wing impromtu courts to be invalid. Like when that group of fruitloops took a bunch of ducks hostage down in Harney County in Oregon. So, fruitloops of whatever brand, get their little paws slapped in the US of A. A good thing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Become?
We already have more mass attacks/killings
than either.

Yep. But they are mostly from our own home grown terrorists, not from Muslims. And that doesn't count. After all, Americans murdering Americans is just the normal state of affairs.

So your opinion is that 10 murders per day is not enough & why not risk more? Great liberal logic

 

[Divine Wind]

Yep. But they are mostly from our own home grown terrorists, not from Muslims. And that doesn't count. After all, Americans murdering Americans is just the normal state of affairs.

If a terrorist kills in the name of Islam, home grown or not, it does indeed "count".

Examples:

Tragedy at Fort Hood - CBS News

Boston Marathon Bombings - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

San Bernardino shooting - CNN.com

Orlando shooting: 49 killed, shooter pledged ISIS allegiance - CNN.com

 

[hazlnut]

London and France-- two places (one a city, the other a country) most conservative on this board will never visit.

It's a big world out there, dopes, try aspiring to something bigger than your church picnic and shooting range social.

 

[easyt65]

There's more people in California than both those countries. So, no....

Yes, there is more space / room for those who believe in Sharia Law to carve out their own little areas while not being noticed for a while....US courts have already had to step in and declare Sharia Courts that have stood up to be invalid'. Yes, the US is huge, so it might take more time that in London and France...but that's one thing Americans have not fully comprehended. Worshippers of islam - Islamic Extremists - have been and are extremely patient, unlike Americans who have the attention span of goldfish.

Yes, and we have had to step in and state that the far right wing impromtu courts to be invalid. Like when that group of fruitloops took a bunch of ducks hostage down in Harney County in Oregon. So, fruitloops of whatever brand, get their little paws slapped in the US of A. A good thing.

Ya had to go partisan instead of sticking to the topic. I wanted to avoid such sidetracks, like discussing how the USSC had to step in and tell Obama his recess appointments, which he refused to overturn, were Un-Constitutional...so hopefully we can stick to the topic at hand.

 

[easyt65]

London and France-- two places (one a city, the other a country) most conservative on this board will never visit.

Big assumption...I have been there, as I imagine many have...and a point that does not address the question.

It's a big world out there, dopes, try aspiring to something bigger than your church picnic and shooting range social.

Another needless 'attack' that does nothing to address the facts or the question.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/politics/isis-spreading-in-europe-clapper-warns.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/06/world/europe/germany-refugees-isis.html

NATO commander says ISIS spreading like cancer among Syrian refugees

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

London and France-- two places (one a city, the other a country) most conservative on this board will never visit.

It's a big world out there, dopes, try aspiring to something bigger than your church picnic and shooting range social.

If I wanted to go see muslims killing people........

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Become?
We already have more mass attacks/killings
than either.

Focus, Jake. We are talking about Islamic Extremism.

That's scarier to you then our homegrown loons who attack more frequently?

 

[frigidweirdo]

After having to admit the federal government's vetting process does NOT work...

After allowing Islamic Extremists in this country who have committed acts of terror and have killed Americans...

After watching London and France infested with Islamic extremists and 'disciples' of Sharia Law carve out 'No-Go' Zones where the host nation's law enforcement and government do not go or preside...

After watching the continued decline of those countries, their security diminish, and repeated terrorist attacks being perpetrated - their numbers growing as the numbers of ISIS / terrorists infiltrating the refugees coming into their country...

After our own national security experts have declared ISIS / terrorists HAVE ALREADY infiltrated refugees and will continue to do so...

Is there anyone who actually thinks, with Hillary vowing to bring in 1 million in her 1st year in office, that with this reckless rush to bring in refugees that our nation will NOT become like / resemble London and France in the future?

If so, once they are here and the transformation begins, how are you going to stop it and reverse it?!

Woman killed in London attack was an American, police say | Fox News

After believing France and the UK are like some kind of horror movie.... have you been to these places?

The US has far more no-go areas than the UK or France. More killing, more problems, and this without the terrorist attacks the US also has that also kills more people than terrorist attacks in the UK.

 

[BlindBoo]

In those countries the terrorist have to find ways to supply their cells with weapons. Here in the US they can buy them over the counter. So we see a surge of homegrown internet converts/terrorist.

 

[Divine Wind]

That's scarier to you then our homegrown loons who attack more frequently?

Dead is dead.

That said, it's a matter of relativity. Most mass murders, both Islamic and not, are done by nutjobs. The recent attack in London was by a young man well known to have mental issues.

Solve the mental health problem(s), both medically and legally, and the vast majority of these problems will go away. We'd still have the issue of radical Islam, but the US have been very successful at keeping them out of the US. Europe, due to a larger Islamic population and proximity, have a much more difficult problem to resolve.

 

[easyt65]

That's scarier to you then our homegrown loons who attack more frequently?

Nice attempt to spin, but I'm not playing. Again, try to focus on the topic / question.

 

[easyt65]

After believing France and the UK are like some kind of horror movie.... have you been to these places?

If you would have read above you would already know that I have.

The US has far more no-go areas than the UK or France. More killing, more problems, and this without the terrorist attacks the US also has that also kills more people than terrorist attacks in the UK.

Do you even know what a 'No-Go' area is? By your comment above you really don't. These are areas where Islamic extremists have declared off-limits to the Brits and French within their own countries, areas they have declared are no longer ruled by the governments, laws, judicial system ,etc of these nations. We truly have NOTHING like that here in the United States. Thanks to Obama allowing and defending federal law-violating cities provide safe havens for violent illegals we are beginning to see such areas, but right now there are truly no such places in the US.

Shootings, like those in Chicago, do not make places like Chicago true 'No-Go' areas.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That's scarier to you then our homegrown loons who attack more frequently?

Dead is dead.

That said, it's a matter of relativity. Most mass murders, both Islamic and not, are done by nutjobs. The recent attack in London was by a young man well known to have mental issues.

Solve the mental health problem(s), both medically and legally, and the vast majority of these problems will go away. We'd still have the issue of radical Islam, but the US have been very successful at keeping them out of the US. Europe, due to a larger Islamic population and proximity, have a much more difficult problem to resolve.

Yes, dead is dead. 20 six year olds are executed in their classrooms and we can't even talk about possible solutions. We have relatively fewer terror related attacks and suddenly that is the priority problem. I agree that mental health is the overlapping problem but so is the ease with which weapons can be obtained.