Does America have a future? Education verses Mysticism

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    The majority of Americans don’t understand why we can’t “teach” the “controversy”. What is wrong with “alternate” theories?

    The problem with that is that science is all interconnected. If you are going to change one theory, you have to change them all.

    How will these theories and sciences change to fit into the perception of science influenced by “mysticism”?

    Paleontology – The study of the forms of life existing in prehistoric or geologic times, as represented by the fossils of plants, animals, and other organisms.

    Biology – concerned with the structure, function, distribution, adaptation, interactions, and evolution of all living organisms including both plants and animals. Biology encompasses a broad spectrum of academic fields that are often viewed as independent disciplines.

    Physiology – The scientific study of an organism's vital functions, including growth and development, the absorption and processing of nutrients, the synthesis and distribution of proteins and other organic molecules, and the functioning of different tissues, organs, and other anatomic structures. Physiology studies the normal mechanical, physical, and biochemical processes of animals and plants.

    Botany – covers a wide range of scientific disciplines that study the growth, reproduction, metabolism, development, diseases, and evolution of plants.

    Astronomy – The scientific study of matter in outer space, especially the positions, dimensions, distribution, motion, composition, energy, and evolution of celestial bodies and phenomena.

    Geology – The scientific study of the origin, history, and structure of the earth

    Plate Tectonics – A theory that explains the global distribution of geological phenomena such as seismicity, volcanism, continental drift, and mountain building in terms of the formation, destruction, movement, and interaction of the earth's lithospheric plates.

    Climatology – The scientific study of climates, including the causes and long-term effects of variation in regional and global climates. Climatology also studies how climate changes over time and is affected by human actions.

    Understanding science has led this country to greatness. By changing understood and well thought out scientific theories, do we undermine what we have built? Our country has slid from first to the twenties and thirties in math, science and other learned and intellectual “elitist” skills. This has coincided with the forceful introduction of mysticism and the occult into our science classrooms.

    Does America have a future?
     
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    Only 6% of Rdean's thread are worth reading and this isn't one of them
     
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    Deanie, I hope you don't mind my piggy-backing on this thread, but this seems appropriate here:

    From “Against Mediocrity: The Humanities in America’s High Schools,” edited by Finn, Ravitch, and Fancher.

    1. There is no sound education that does not include the teaching and learning of the humanities, the study of literature, history and languages. Forsaking learning in a particular discipline such as literature, history, or philosophy, eager “humanistic” zealots have imposed “humanistic education,” “humane studies,” and “values inquiries” upon the schools. In my experience, courses offered under these banners have largely failed to impart much knowledge; but they have succeeded in altering the public perception of the humanities. Now, thanks to educational sloppiness verging on intellectual anarchy, there is often a skeptical and distrustful attitude when one use the term “humanities.”

    2. The College Board revealed in 1975 that scores on the SAT had fallen steadily and sharply since 1964. The College Board’s own blue-ribbon panel reported in 1977 that the most substantial score decline had occurred after the demographics of the applicant pool, expansion of the low-income and minority test takers, had stabilized. They acknowledged that the likely influence of the lowering of standards and the lessened emphasis on critical reading and thoughtful writing.

    3. Without values and ethics, the wisdom and knowledge, the insight and context, the shared understanding and communications embodied in the humanities, we risk becoming a society that loses its balance. If the system only strengthens in science, math and basic skills, we risk producing no more than technopeasants, individuals who manipulate complex machines without any understanding of why, who depend on other machines for amusement and recreation, who have no real intellectual interests or cultural lives, whose behavior is defined by the interaction between hedonistic cravings and externally imposed controls, who have no valid basis for judging the claims of politicians, gurus, and cult figures, and who lack any sense of a collective past or any vision of a better future.
     
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    Hey he managed to make a post with out pointing out the the Rep Party is Confederate, 90% white, and mostly Christian.

    personally I am impressed.
     
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    Even when you think you sound smart, the inanity foolhardiness of your "thought" can be pierced with just a mere few examples and questions, not the least of which are:

    Who is it that is now resisting real *ahem* progress and change, by claiming that the many should just blindly go along with the reputed "superior intellect" of the few?

    How much peripheral science was changed when Fred Hoyle's steady state theory of the universe was disproved?

    What's your direct and verifiable evidence that elite institutions of reputed higher science have been forcefully infiltrated and influenced by this mysticism you irrationally dread so much?

    Answers: You...None...None.

    Fortunately, blithering idiots like you are relatively few and far between. Therefore, prospects for America's future still remain fairly positive.
     
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    Our education system is not progressive. Montessori schools are progressive. Schools in Japan and Europe are progressive. We place very litte value (monetary or otherwise) into public elementary education. It's not as lucrative as war and corporate welfare and tax cuts benefitting millionaires. If there's no profit in it, this country doesn't care about it. We value education as much as we do the way in which food is grown and processed here - ie we don't.
     
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    Apparently Mr.Peepers is an expert in European Schools! :eusa_think:

    Ever been to one? I have, for 13 years. And no, It wasn't. Actually.. It all depends on what you classify as "Progressive Schools".
     
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    No, I'm basing it on the experiences of my Irish and English friends who get an education FAR superior to ours - they are obviously doing something that we aren't. And I work for a Japanese company & can see the results of their education all around me.
     
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    What a fucking lie

    Can Progressives ever say ANYTHING without having to lie?

    We spend more per student that almost any other country on the planet and we graduate high schoolers who can't read or name 3 Founding Fathers if you spotted them Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

    Lies lies lies lies.
     

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