Does A Religion Need A God?

[PoliticalChic]

How about 'the state.'

Sure-as per your totalitarian dream quote-or modern day America.

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

those are not religions---STOP the dumbshit

I'll ask you again to post without vulgarity.....if you can. If your upbringing prevents it, say so

 

[harmonica]

......religion is made up by humans--so it doesn't matter ...they can worship anything--like an aluminum pole
a Festivus for the Rest of US

"...they can worship anything-"

You can't be this dense, can you???

Some religions advance society, as does the Judeo-Christian faith.


These religions don't....they cause dissension, death, and oppression:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

And under these religions...., no, you can't worship any other.


There are a number of militant-atheists/Marxists 'scientists' who exemplify this view, that no other worship is allowed:

Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist), is certainly one of the world’s leaders in evolutionary biology. He wrote this very revealing comment: “‘We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.” Lewontin explains why one must accept absurdities: “…we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”

but you can be a jackass/etc
so you believe in ''religion'' yet you are a jackass and call people ''dense''....!!!!
you see, you just proved my point---hahahahahahahhaha
religion is man made--- = bullshit--you can't deny this

I believe the same things the Founders of the nation believed.



See if you can post like an adult...avoid the vulgarity.

see if you cannot be a jackass
I thought religions taught people to be nice and not insulting????!!!
you PROVE you are full of shit

 

[harmonica]

Sure-as per your totalitarian dream quote-or modern day America.

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

those are not religions---STOP the dumbshit

I'll ask you again to post without vulgarity.....if you can. If your upbringing prevents it, say so

hahahhaha--I'm destroying you and you try to deflect--won't work pal

 

[PoliticalChic]

How about 'the state.'

Sure-as per your totalitarian dream quote-or modern day America.

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

 

[harmonica]

Sure-as per your totalitarian dream quote-or modern day America.

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

communism/socialism/nazism---where is the ''super power''??????!!!!!!!??
please answer that one

 

[PoliticalChic]

I agree climate change is kind of like a religion, but it has no god. It's just a belief that cannot be proven.

But...it is a required position to be part of the religion of the state.

Believe it, or pretend you believe it....or be exposed to the Left's vituperation.

 

[harmonica]

Sure-as per your totalitarian dream quote-or modern day America.

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

those are not religions---STOP the dumbshit

I'll ask you again to post without vulgarity.....if you can. If your upbringing prevents it, say so

I'll ask you again to post without insulting members

 

[PoliticalChic]

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

communism/socialism/nazism---where is the ''super power''??????!!!!!!!??
please answer that one

Same as here:

“Chinese Communism mimics religion- it presents a version of history with a journey with deliverance played out in chapters written in a chosen language. It boasts its own priesthood- political commissars ubiquitous throughout- and an enforced infallibility of its leadership. There are prophets and devils along with a council of senior ayatollahs who have the power to change or reinterpret the communist historical narrative.

Party loyalty equal morality; doubting history is blasthemy, heresy, treasonous. There is a chosen people, the Chinese; a promised land, China; and temples, pilgrimage, faith in the face of contrary facts, deep intrusion into the personal life of each person, and the indoctrination of children into the tenets of Chinese Communism.

The objective is to further the totalitarian dream of convincing the Chinese people and the world that the party is divine and infallible and that the Communist Party is the savior.” Gertz, “Deceiving The Sky,” p. 27-28



Amazing that you can't comprehend that.
If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

 

[harmonica]

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

communism/socialism/nazism---where is the ''super power''??????!!!!!!!??
please answer that one

Same as here:

“Chinese Communism mimics religion- it presents a version of history with a journey with deliverance played out in chapters written in a chosen language. It boasts its own priesthood- political commissars ubiquitous throughout- and an enforced infallibility of its leadership. There are prophets and devils along with a council of senior ayatollahs who have the power to change or reinterpret the communist historical narrative.

Party loyalty equal morality; doubting history is blasthemy, heresy, treasonous. There is a chosen people, the Chinese; a promised land, China; and temples, pilgrimage, faith in the face of contrary facts, deep intrusion into the personal life of each person, and the indoctrination of children into the tenets of Chinese Communism.

The objective is to further the totalitarian dream of convincing the Chinese people and the world that the party is divine and infallible and that the Communist Party is the savior.” Gertz, “Deceiving The Sky,” p. 27-28



Amazing that you can't comprehend that.
If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.







Amaz

hahahhahahah--those ''powers'' are ANTI-religious
ahahahhahahahahahah

 

[harmonica]

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

communism/socialism/nazism---where is the ''super power''??????!!!!!!!??
please answer that one

Same as here:

“Chinese Communism mimics religion- it presents a version of history with a journey with deliverance played out in chapters written in a chosen language. It boasts its own priesthood- political commissars ubiquitous throughout- and an enforced infallibility of its leadership. There are prophets and devils along with a council of senior ayatollahs who have the power to change or reinterpret the communist historical narrative.

Party loyalty equal morality; doubting history is blasthemy, heresy, treasonous. There is a chosen people, the Chinese; a promised land, China; and temples, pilgrimage, faith in the face of contrary facts, deep intrusion into the personal life of each person, and the indoctrination of children into the tenets of Chinese Communism.

The objective is to further the totalitarian dream of convincing the Chinese people and the world that the party is divine and infallible and that the Communist Party is the savior.” Gertz, “Deceiving The Sky,” p. 27-28



Amazing that you can't comprehend that.
If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

I'll ask you again to stop insulting members

 

[PoliticalChic]

Articulate a point.

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

those are not religions---STOP the dumbshit

I'll ask you again to post without vulgarity.....if you can. If your upbringing prevents it, say so

I'll ask you again to post without insulting members

Welcome to the karma cafe....there are no menus but you will get what you deserve

 

[anotherlife]

1.Well, yes. That’s the requirement of the term ‘religion.’

re·li·gion
/rəˈlijən/
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google



And as totalitarians of every sort, Communists, Progressives, Liberals, government school grads, never cease to berate, ridicule, and show utter contempt for those of us who are believers, once can only be amazed by their lack of self-realization.

Because every one of their doctrines is some version of religion.


"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physicalsins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY


"It is a great irony of communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point. It was believed that government could be omnipotent and omniscient. And in order to justify the idea that all lives should be determined by a single plan, the concomitant tendency of communist regimes was to deify the leader- whether Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Kim Il-sung."
Tom Bethell, "The Noblest Triumph," p. 144

And the Liberals/Democrats called Obama god, the messiah, and Jesus.



"...communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point."

And that ‘central point’ that is god to every totalitarian is the state.




2. “Chinese Communism mimics religion- it presents a version of history with a journey with deliverance played out in chapters written in a chosen language. It boasts its own priesthood- political commissars ubiquitous throughout- and an enforced infallibility of its leadership. There are prophets and devils along with a council of senior ayatollahs who have the power to change or reinterpret the communist historical narrative.

Party loyalty equal morality; doubting history is blasthemy, heresy, treasonous. There is a chosen people, the Chinese; a promised land, China; and temples, pilgrimage, faith in the face of contrary facts, deep intrusion into the personal life of each person, and the indoctrination of children into the tenets of Chinese Communism.

The objective is to further the totalitarian dream of convincing the Chinese people and the world that the party is divine and infallible and that the Communist Party is the savior.” Gertz, “Deceiving The Sky,” p. 27-28





How to determine whose religion is best?

I’d say that the Litmus Test is the one that offers life, not one that threatens death if one doesn't conform.

Buddhism doesn't have a god.

Take it up with Google.


Do you worship the state?

I did take it up with Google. First answer: No, they don't. A little longer answer:
Do Buddhist believe in god?
No, we do not. There are several reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origin in fear. The Buddha says:

"Gripped by fear men go to the sacred mountains,
sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines".

Do Buddhist believe in god?

The occult puts fear into your children and that fear is real. Once you have it, only a god can help you.

 

[Mac1958]

Humans have created and worshiped gods for millennia. Over 2,500 of 'em running around.

Of course, pretending that a person's religious relationship with their god is the same as their relationship with government is preposterous, although not surprising for shallow, binary, hardcore wingers.
.

 

[harmonica]

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

you dumbass---you just contradicted yourself
here is your post # 20!

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

There is no contradiction....that is the definition provided by Google.

communism/socialism/nazism---where is the ''super power''??????!!!!!!!??
please answer that one

Same as here:

“Chinese Communism mimics religion- it presents a version of history with a journey with deliverance played out in chapters written in a chosen language. It boasts its own priesthood- political commissars ubiquitous throughout- and an enforced infallibility of its leadership. There are prophets and devils along with a council of senior ayatollahs who have the power to change or reinterpret the communist historical narrative.

Party loyalty equal morality; doubting history is blasthemy, heresy, treasonous. There is a chosen people, the Chinese; a promised land, China; and temples, pilgrimage, faith in the face of contrary facts, deep intrusion into the personal life of each person, and the indoctrination of children into the tenets of Chinese Communism.

The objective is to further the totalitarian dream of convincing the Chinese people and the world that the party is divine and infallible and that the Communist Party is the savior.” Gertz, “Deceiving The Sky,” p. 27-28



Amazing that you can't comprehend that.
If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

hahahahhahahah--your definition of religion is superHUMAN---not superPOWER
hahahahahhahahahahaha
you fkd up!!!!!!
where is the superHUMAN in communism/nazism/etc???

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

No it does not need a god imo.

A god is essentially a myth and ANYTHING can be considered a myth.

This post is not intended to trigger those who believe in god but is simply a response to the question posed.

 

[harmonica]

Religion is about dogma. God is important but secondary to the beliefs of the faithful.

These religions are about power, control, and subjection:
Communism, Socialism,Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, and Fascism.

The Judeo-Christian faiths are about free will and individualism.


How come you don't know that????

those are not religions---STOP the dumbshit

I'll ask you again to post without vulgarity.....if you can. If your upbringing prevents it, say so

I'll ask you again to post without insulting members

Welcome to the karma cafe....there are no menus but you will get what you deserve

here is your post # 20:
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Google

where do you get superhuman from communism/nazism/etc?????!!!!!!!??
hahahahhahahahahha

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. Worship of the state, every totalitarian view, originates with the French Revolution.
Every political philosophy that grew from that source demands bending the neck and the knee to the state.



“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.”
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror


Human life no longer mattered, only the state.




'In ‘The Social Contract’ Rousseau advocated death for anyone who did not uphold the common values of the community: the totalitarian view of reshaping of humanity, echoed in communism, Nazism, progressivism. Robespierre: “the necessity of bringing about a complete regeneration and, if I may express myself so, of creating a new people.”
Himmelfarb, , “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68.


Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


Disagree....and the consequence is death or ruin. Such is the view of every totalitarian regime.

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky




The collective, the ‘common will,’ the revealed ‘truth,’ embodied in the state, the government, are to be worshiped.

And the ‘revealed truth’ today is global warming, men become women, the need to do away with borders, and to equalize all material wealth….believe it, or else!

 

[Seawytch]

No it does not need a god imo.

A god is essentially a myth and ANYTHING can be considered a myth.

This post is not intended to trigger those who believe in god but is simply a response to the question posed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No it does not need a god imo.

A god is essentially a myth and ANYTHING can be considered a myth.

This post is not intended to trigger those who believe in god but is simply a response to the question posed.

I'm bettin' you voted for the candidate your side called god, the messiah, and Jesus.


I'm right again, huh?

 

[whitehall]

It's not for us to say. The Founding Fathers thought freedom of religion was so important that they addressed it in the first Amendment to the Constitution.