CDZ Do you think that a revolution or uprising in America is inevitable in the future? Or incredibly unl

[Statistikhengst]

My thoughts are so clear and simple:
Given the state of the economy, the growing disparity of wealth, joblessness, and increasing negative views of the government, do you think it will hit a breaking point where Americans decide to revolt and overthrow the government/wealthy elite?
Or is that more likely an extreme scenario that will never happen?
Your opinion of the future of America's state of affairs?

I find it totally fascinating that one side is just completely obsessed with tearing asunder what blood, sweat and tears put and kept together.

Personally, I find it unbelievably unamerican and downright unpatriotic.

The Right, imo, needs to take a chill pill.

 

[dcraelin]

Or not. I think you seriously underestimate the resiliency of our system The civil war raged to an end and we are still here. The great depression came and we are still here. Markets have crashed, bubbles have burst, major corporations disappeared in a puff of balance sheets, and we are still here. All of these little bumps you think will push us over the edge may or may not come, but we will still be here.

in some form we will still be here..........but perhaps after a lot of violence as in the civil war........

Even after the civil war (which we are not going to have) the form did not change. What makes us different today is that we are not divided by clear regions. We are divided by population densities. Urban vs rural, and both entities are dependent upon the other. How does Georgia break away from Atlanta, Missouri from St. Louis? It used to be you were born, lived and died within a few square miles. Now families are spread across the nation. How do you make war against the city where your children live?

There is no revolution brewing, no great unrest, no population ready to toss out the powerful. What there is is a media who maintain ratings by dramatizing everything and an internet where people expound on unsupported theories. None of it is real.

The form changed dramatically after the civil war...3 amendments....and some would argue a change in interpretation of the base Constitution also. It was a revolution in reality if not in name.

If gas prices get as high as Europes and the stock market crashes again...who knows what could happen

Eventually the folks on one side or the other end up siding with liberty... then the other side gets dragged along. Look at gay marriage.. What pisses people off is having their liberties trashed by authorities at the behest of the majority. As we gain our liberty back our desire for war wanes.

Oh, I don't think the gay community ever considered war. Even though their liberties were being trashed at the behest of the majority.

not being able to get that government piece of paper is "their liberties being trashed"? a government marriage license is really a hold-over from the church-state of England.....and of course the gay community never considered war,their true liberty to cohabitate was never threatened.

 

[PratchettFan]

in some form we will still be here..........but perhaps after a lot of violence as in the civil war........

Even after the civil war (which we are not going to have) the form did not change. What makes us different today is that we are not divided by clear regions. We are divided by population densities. Urban vs rural, and both entities are dependent upon the other. How does Georgia break away from Atlanta, Missouri from St. Louis? It used to be you were born, lived and died within a few square miles. Now families are spread across the nation. How do you make war against the city where your children live?

There is no revolution brewing, no great unrest, no population ready to toss out the powerful. What there is is a media who maintain ratings by dramatizing everything and an internet where people expound on unsupported theories. None of it is real.

The form changed dramatically after the civil war...3 amendments....and some would argue a change in interpretation of the base Constitution also. It was a revolution in reality if not in name.

If gas prices get as high as Europes and the stock market crashes again...who knows what could happen

Eventually the folks on one side or the other end up siding with liberty... then the other side gets dragged along. Look at gay marriage.. What pisses people off is having their liberties trashed by authorities at the behest of the majority. As we gain our liberty back our desire for war wanes.

Oh, I don't think the gay community ever considered war. Even though their liberties were being trashed at the behest of the majority.

not being able to get that government piece of paper is "their liberties being trashed"? a government marriage license is really a hold-over from the church-state of England.....and of course the gay community never considered war,their true liberty to cohabitate was never threatened.

Yes, it is. What the license is is irrelevant. That it is is all that matters, and the benefits derived from it. So absolutely denying a segment of society access to those benefits is trashing their liberties.

 

[dcraelin]

Even after the civil war (which we are not going to have) the form did not change. What makes us different today is that we are not divided by clear regions. We are divided by population densities. Urban vs rural, and both entities are dependent upon the other. How does Georgia break away from Atlanta, Missouri from St. Louis? It used to be you were born, lived and died within a few square miles. Now families are spread across the nation. How do you make war against the city where your children live?

There is no revolution brewing, no great unrest, no population ready to toss out the powerful. What there is is a media who maintain ratings by dramatizing everything and an internet where people expound on unsupported theories. None of it is real.

The form changed dramatically after the civil war...3 amendments....and some would argue a change in interpretation of the base Constitution also. It was a revolution in reality if not in name.

If gas prices get as high as Europes and the stock market crashes again...who knows what could happen

Eventually the folks on one side or the other end up siding with liberty... then the other side gets dragged along. Look at gay marriage.. What pisses people off is having their liberties trashed by authorities at the behest of the majority. As we gain our liberty back our desire for war wanes.

Oh, I don't think the gay community ever considered war. Even though their liberties were being trashed at the behest of the majority.

not being able to get that government piece of paper is "their liberties being trashed"? a government marriage license is really a hold-over from the church-state of England.....and of course the gay community never considered war,their true liberty to cohabitate was never threatened.

Yes, it is. What the license is is irrelevant. That it is is all that matters, and the benefits derived from it. So absolutely denying a segment of society access to those benefits is trashing their liberties.

bull shit.... single people dont get those benefits either.........so its not singling out gays..

 

[PratchettFan]

The form changed dramatically after the civil war...3 amendments....and some would argue a change in interpretation of the base Constitution also. It was a revolution in reality if not in name.

If gas prices get as high as Europes and the stock market crashes again...who knows what could happen

Eventually the folks on one side or the other end up siding with liberty... then the other side gets dragged along. Look at gay marriage.. What pisses people off is having their liberties trashed by authorities at the behest of the majority. As we gain our liberty back our desire for war wanes.

Oh, I don't think the gay community ever considered war. Even though their liberties were being trashed at the behest of the majority.

not being able to get that government piece of paper is "their liberties being trashed"? a government marriage license is really a hold-over from the church-state of England.....and of course the gay community never considered war,their true liberty to cohabitate was never threatened.

Yes, it is. What the license is is irrelevant. That it is is all that matters, and the benefits derived from it. So absolutely denying a segment of society access to those benefits is trashing their liberties.

bull shit.... single people dont get those benefits either.........so its not singling out gays..

Really? That's your response? Amazing.

 

[dcraelin]

Eventually the folks on one side or the other end up siding with liberty... then the other side gets dragged along. Look at gay marriage.. What pisses people off is having their liberties trashed by authorities at the behest of the majority. As we gain our liberty back our desire for war wanes.

Oh, I don't think the gay community ever considered war. Even though their liberties were being trashed at the behest of the majority.

not being able to get that government piece of paper is "their liberties being trashed"? a government marriage license is really a hold-over from the church-state of England.....and of course the gay community never considered war,their true liberty to cohabitate was never threatened.

Yes, it is. What the license is is irrelevant. That it is is all that matters, and the benefits derived from it. So absolutely denying a segment of society access to those benefits is trashing their liberties.

bull shit.... single people dont get those benefits either.........so its not singling out gays..

Really? That's your response? Amazing.

isnt it though...and your response is amazing too.

 

[Judicial review]

If the GOP wins the Presidency then no. If the GOP doesn't win the Presidency, but wins a veto proof majority, which neutralizes the President, then no. If Hilary wins, yes, due to the inevitable next recession. The economists say it will take 2 recessions to self correct the economy, just like after a 7.8 earth quake, lower grade aftershocks follow, then it's over.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Do you think that a revolution or uprising in America is inevitable in the future?"

No.

The notion is ridiculous.

“My thoughts are so clear and simple:
Given the state of the economy, the growing disparity of wealth, joblessness, and increasing negative views of the government, do you think it will hit a breaking point where Americans decide to revolt and overthrow the government/wealthy elite?”

Actually this is subjective, inane, and completely devoid of merit.

 

[dcraelin]

intersting article by Kunstler with this line "Imagine the psychic pain of the Silicon Valley billionaire driving his $87,000 Tesla P85D down a freeway that the State of California hasn’t been able to repair in five years."

Muskular Magic KUNSTLER

 

[xdangerousxdavex]

"Do you think that a revolution or uprising in America is inevitable in the future?"

No.

The notion is ridiculous.

“My thoughts are so clear and simple:
Given the state of the economy, the growing disparity of wealth, joblessness, and increasing negative views of the government, do you think it will hit a breaking point where Americans decide to revolt and overthrow the government/wealthy elite?”

Actually this is subjective, inane, and completely devoid of merit.

I don't understand your point. There's nothing changes, unemployment rate grows, immigration system fails, election looks like circus more and more.
The other point, my point, is that revolution is impossible because we live in police and military state. If you're against the government, then you're against all the armed forces of our country.

 

[Katzndogz]

No. There will not be a revolution. There is a slow process of dissolution.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It's require a major triggering event like economic collapse, unprecedented terrorist attack, natural disaster, and the like.

People may be discontent, whine, and bitch, and moan, but without some event to spur them into motion, after they whine a bit they go back to other things.

 

[Brian Nott]

My thoughts are so clear and simple:
Given the state of the economy, the growing disparity of wealth, joblessness, and increasing negative views of the government, do you think it will hit a breaking point where Americans decide to revolt and overthrow the government/wealthy elite?
Or is that more likely an extreme scenario that will never happen?
Your opinion of the future of America's state of affairs?

The push back is already underway.

Convention of States

Some riots yes but a proper revolution with some real targets, explicit political platform, strong leaders and bloody clashes with state military forces - no, i don't believe in it. All American riots usually end when protesters are given something 'to eat' metaphorically speaking and that's not a revolution really.

 

[xdangerousxdavex]

Some riots yes but a proper revolution with some real targets, explicit political platform, strong leaders and bloody clashes with state military forces - no, i don't believe in it. All American riots usually end when protesters are given something 'to eat' metaphorically speaking and that's not a revolution really.

Real target is always government. Leader needed, that's where you're right.
The reason is you haven't seen any revolution. The question is if revolution is possible in the US. Riots usually end with total police pressing on rioters, next day usually it's ok.

 

[quorthon]

It's require a major triggering event like economic collapse, unprecedented terrorist attack, natural disaster, and the like.
People may be discontent, whine, and bitch, and moan, but without some event to spur them into motion, after they whine a bit they go back to other things.

Agreed. In the case of some major triggering event revolution is possible. Without it revolution is impossible. But economic collapse would be the direct cause of revolution, and it's the most likely reason for revolution.

 

[PratchettFan]

It's require a major triggering event like economic collapse, unprecedented terrorist attack, natural disaster, and the like.
People may be discontent, whine, and bitch, and moan, but without some event to spur them into motion, after they whine a bit they go back to other things.

Agreed. In the case of some major triggering event revolution is possible. Without it revolution is impossible. But economic collapse would be the direct cause of revolution, and it's the most likely reason for revolution.

I doubt it. We have had economic collapses and no revolution. However, if the drought in California does not abate and you suddenly have 30 million people who run out of water, then you might have a revolution on your hands.

 

[prison/con.net]

no, we have NOT had an economic collapse, A collapse is when your currency buys NOTHING. We've had some severe set backs, but that is all. A real collapse will leave people grubbing for bugs to eat within a few weeks. There will be no organized anything, because we don't have the stored-up resources to make it possible. There will be no horses. There's no horse drawn implements left, and the horses will be EATEN, not used for transport. All the grain, even the garden veggies are hybrid. if you plant them, they don't produce any progeny

 

[rightwinger]

Americans are fat and lazy and more concerned with their smartphones and facebook page to worry about politics